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Except for @Ridas (you’re too fast), it all looks like the intended target: 1K per 24 hours. I was hoping it would slow down as prices increased, but looking at Edaw’s numbers, it might actually accelerate. Income must be outgrowing the rising diamond prices. I'm offline for almost a day now...

Each one gets more expensive than the last. That should do it, provided the curve is steep enough.

I wonder what will happen to your credits now... Edaw is getting more than a credit per second, causing errors. I thought you would go slower eventually.

Mid game at some point might be easier now, but I've tested for an hour and I could spend all day and not be sure anyway.

The +200% diamond bonus is live now. Yeah I guess the temporary crazy rate destroyed the balance for you. And your plan sounds about right. Edit: or stop at some point, nothing lasts forever :) Except the diamonds.

So... I changed it to 200%, which seems appropriate for the save game I got. However, this might make the earlier levels way too easy, so I set the price at 3000. I could lower the price... or not. Hoping this works out alright. It is just a replacement of the old card, so all who bought it...

I see 5½ minute per credit currently, ~250 per 24h (will be slower for each new credit). Now comes the million-dollar question - how fast do we want it? I'll think about it, but you might be the better judge after playing for so long.

Do you have a save game you can spoiler? I think just adjusting the Shiny Diamond cards can fix it. Or maybe add some more.

More oomhp needed. Will look at it soon.

It would always be worth it at some point. The player has to figure that one out.

I did remove the last few. The multiplicative scaling with the diamonds just got completely out of hand. Bad testing on my part. An hour... how many diamonds do you have?

A first stab at this. Numbers are pulled out of my a... rena. Not deployed yet. It might be too much, but honestly I have no idea how things are up at your crazy levels.

I could just change a single number and make it faster, but I wonder what effect it will have at lower levels. Turning things off does seem bizarre lol Maybe just add another card with a much higher diamond bonus?

Thanks, great info. That does sound slow. Chests are based on your current income, so they should always have the same relative value. This one seems to be 152x2 = 302 = 5 minutes of income.

I suppose this will help some, but it sounds like a little more oomph is required.

No nerf intended, it just turned out to be really hard to balance things. I assume you own these four cards? Actually... 8 seconds sounds way too fast. There was a day or so where it was completely broken and way too fast.

Btw @Lanx , what version are you on? 70 was fucked. Latest is 72.

Where are you at? It's not intended to be slower than like... a week ago. I will definitely speed it up if some serious slowdown happened. Could you spoiler a save game please? If you have the latest version the numbers should be comparable... In theory. @Haus Was it much faster a week ago...

You should probably refresh now and go back to "normal", which will be much, much, slower. Or not, if you wish to go crazy ;)

Crazy numbers... how about credits? I just got a report that they are running amok at lower/medium levels (though I don't see it), so I disabled the last three income cards (X3, X3 and X4). Anyways, I don't want to spam this thread. You will probably see passive income drop considerably since...

Could you do me a huge favor? Get the latest version, buy the new passive income bonuses (if you haven't) and check how fast you get credits. Compared to your current version. I'm worried it might be too fast. It's pretty hard balancing this stuff when big changes are made. Or I could just get...

I have exactly that ;) If damage > enemyHealth then damage = enemyHealth Extract damage from HP Bar

I can imagine from the description. No idea atm but at least it's not breaking anything. I see I didn't increase monster HP enough...

A new card rework was released just now. How it leaves you I don't know :)

There is actually already a time bonus for clearing, but it doesn't do much since when you progress you quickly get to just few seconds left. Also, with Fast Arena you jump 25 levels if you have 20+ seconds to spare ;) So I agree about the idea, it just didn't pan out how I thought it would.

It is 38 million 429 thousand percent. Does a space help? Or any other suggestions?

25 makes a lot of sense. Replaced 100 with 25 for now. 10 stays, I need it. Also... increased dagger damage. Changed effect of Voidgazer.

My excuse is Earl'y access :) The thinking was this... it seems like a some point damage has outrun the arena so much, that it is just automatic wins for thousands and thousands of levels. I was thinking of a loop of buy upgrades, gain some arena levels, rinse and repeat. This of course feels...

Fixed. Just refresh and it should work as intended.

Can you post your save game in a spoiler tag? I can't reproduce the problem. How often does it happen?

This is in now.

Diamond purchase that makes arena jump 5 levels at a time. So you can get the juicy percentage bonuses without having it open all the time.

That break thing is probably needed. I'm trying to wrap it up and just add skins etc. (three more added today). Skins are also something to aim for, if you didn't unlock them all already...

Giving Earl run speed sounds like a way easier solution :D Anyways, I would need a break before adding larger features. But the run speed could be fun and pretty easy...

I really wonder how many people will get that far...

It would be better but it's quite a lot of work for a small gain. But by all means, keep posting ideas. I've run dry of (realistic) ideas and I'm just wrapping up and fixing easy things. And adding skins.

So more like...

ChatGPT really likes this style. I like this one.

Pretty cool!

You know you are getting old when you don't want to read this thread.