Ok, I'm done reading the Defiance of the fall series, I didn't finish it, I'm just done. Book 8 was painful and book 13 made me finally bow out. The amount of daoist and other cultivation bullshit in this series was way over the top. I'm amazed I lasted as long as I did. I probably should have dropped it in book 8 when got really bad. Anyhow, now to read the new DCC and find a new series.
