Factorio

Folanlron said:

There is a Data set you need for Material science later, you are literally throwing full trains at Iridium Girders and taking the Stress data you get from that for material science.

You get so much scrap out of that 1 Data set, that if you don't have a robust enough scrap processing setup, it will choke the whole factory.

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meStevo said:

I'm sure the answer is 'git gud' but... how are you guys managing what resources are needed where for your factories across the different surfaces? Just complex circuit setups so they intelligently request things, simplifying the endpoints you need to supply?

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Tuco said:

Speaking of spending hours fixing things that aren't broken, I rehauled my rocket transmissions from my mall on Nauvis. Like most SE players, in my factory each planet outpost has its own rocket landing that receives all the items for the outpost. Unlike most players, I built the Nauvis side to have a unique inserter for each resource that's needed and one requester chest per three inserters. The inserter would then only insert if that resources was needed.

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It works fine, but it's larger than it needs to be, has more entities, creates an additional in the requester chests and is slow at transmitting any given resources. Worst of all, it takes more time to set everything up or change. Now that I know better, most players do something waaaay smarter that uses a requester chest that you can set the signal of (which I didn't know was possible when I designed the above method), I didn't read this page too closely but it looks similar to what I came up with this morning: Guide: Rocket Circuitry - Space Exploration

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The thing I'm doing that's probably uncommon is I discovered by accident you can load fuel from the back of the rocket silo, and I use bob's inserters to ultra-dump any materials from the small requester chest in the top right (It's like, hundreds of items a second).

If anyone wants me to go into detail on the four circuits I can, but they basically send the needed items from my outpost to the requester chest if the rocket is built and has empty space.

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Tuco said:

Behold, Naq Hauler Mk. II. I don't think I showed off Naq Hauler Mk. I but this one uses antimatter drives, has 4 warehouses for Naquitite and has force fields to prevent damage from rare events where asteroids are very dense.

There are 4 different locations it cycles through.

Spoiler

There is a secret space anomally, Foenestra, that has a static travel distance of 10k to anywhere in the star map, so the maximum distance you have to travel is 20k. I think this makes space travel a little too easy, but this circuitry takes advantage of that.

I've been looking forward to building space ships in SE and it hasn't let me down at all. I'm still iterating on simple, obvious designs but it's satisfying.

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Tuco said:

Built my first Naqium Ingot factory, pretty happy with it.

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Naquitite processing is notoriously busy because it has to be mined outside the solar system and only stacks till ten. Most people do an intermediate processing at the mining site (which precludes the usage of production modules), but I chose to bring it in raw because I wanted to stress a high throughput system.

There's a few things I changed up. Generally for my 4 cargo wagon trains I funnel the four buffer chests into a single buffer chest to guarantee even consumption of the buffer chests, ex, my copper chests here:

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This has two problems:
1. You incur a UPS cost from the entry and exit of the buffer chest (which can be quite large for large chests)
2. You then have to distribute out of that chest to through your factory, which can be quite annoying in high consumption scenarios.

So I tried to ditch that funnel buffer and instead output it raw. This has the issue of imbalancing the chests which can either cause the factory to be underprovisioned or cause overshipping of trains, which can cause trains to be occupied longer than you want (which isn't a big deal in this situation because the only 1-4-1 trains I have coming from nauvis orbit to nauvis is for this purpose, but whatever).

To address that I did two things:
1. Used some fancy circuits to set my request amount (and even integrated in the LUA scripting mod: Moon Logic )
2. Used some basic circuits to balance the chests.

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You can see the circuit logic for #1 here, basically it takes the most needed resource and multiplies it by 4 to request only when one chest needs it. The inserters to the left do some balancing of the chests. I generally have equivalent consumption of each chest, but it's imperfect.

After pulverising the naquitite ore, I'm using direct insertion to move them to the chemical factories, which is made easy with Bob's Inserters

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This is more UPS efficient than going building->belt->building, but requires a lot more effort.

Another thing I tried for the first time is used a sort of self-feeding inserter going into a loader
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This factory has a lot of byproducts, and in this case there are three byproducts that the system itself consumes *rolls eyes*. I think that mechanic is dumb and have historically solved it by creating an output that feeds back into a belt with some basic prioritization. This makes use of the fact that loaders will overfeed factories more than inserters, so it'll load up that byproduct and only use the inserter when it needs to.

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Tuco said:

I finished scanning Koskomino, my first planet I'm eradicating biters on. It's huge, a radius of 8049 and with a threat of 33% that's a loooot of biters. Going to be a while even with 130 GW or whatever of beam emitters exterminating bugs. I'm not ramping up more solar emitters because I still don't want a huge cache of solar panels I don't need and the cost of having biters just isn't that big of a deal.

One patch is visible. There are ... 4 thousand patches? If each patch takes a beam emitter 15 minutes to clear, that's 4000 * 15 / 6 = 10,000 minutes or 166 hours... This planet is waterless, so no trees or grass (which absorbs polution, so as the beam emitter goes through and burns the biters and creates pollution, most of that pollution is absorbed by nearby biters, creating more biters.... I don't know how biters spawn without pollution being introduced to them.

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