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Chukzombi

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Disney might have enough money to keep it up for a while, but local theaters won't when no one turns up to see these shitty movies. Eventually theaters might just stop buying their crap.
And ya know, Disney has a lot of that 160 billion tied up in assets and those assets diminish in value based off lack of interest in them. They don't have billions in cash on hand. They have something like 30 billion dollars of debt, but because of those lucrative assets, they can borrow money from banks for an indefinite amount of years. The thing is when those assets cease to make a profit, then the banks start to get very tight with their money. Disney is on a collision course with that reality. Then what do t when they run out of cash on hand? They start to sell off those assets and things get bleaker as years go by and they sell more and more til they no longer have much of anything left. 160 billion can disappear very quickly.

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They have 40 billion in debt.
 
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And ya know, Disney has a lot of that 160 billion tied up in assets and those assets diminish in value based off lack of interest in them. They don't have billions in cash on hand. They have something like 30 billion dollars of debt, but because of those lucrative assets, they can borrow money from banks for an indefinite amount of years. The thing is when those assets cease to make a profit, then the banks start to get very tight with their money. Disney is on a collision course with that reality. Then what do t when they run out of cash on hand? They start to sell off those assets and things get bleaker as years go by and they sell more and more til they no longer have much of anything left. 160 billion can disappear very quickly.

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They have 40 billion in debt.
Not only that, Disney is a publicly traded company and the stock holders DEMAND a profit. You can't keep pumping out 200 million dollar flops before the stock holders start a revolt.
 
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Chukzombi

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Not only that, Disney is a publicly traded company and the stock holders DEMAND a profit. You can't keep pumping out 200 million dollar flops before the stock holders start a revolt.
Yes, that's what this Nelson Peltz coup was about. The stockholders are starting to revolt now. Peltz has 2 billion in Disney. He commands a lot of sway. He tried to get Iger out of there and I think Iger called in a lot of solids to keep his job, but after this year and all the future flops to come, he might not get away with it next time. You can see he's trying to pull back on some of the woke, but it's not nearly enough. He thinks he's got people in his pocket, but that's about to change. This year has to be a big hit for Disney. Nothing seems to suggest that it will.
 
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Chukzombi

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Yeah the previous 3 times he said Disney would cut back on the faggotry and then didn't don't matter because he said it a 4 time and thats what counts!
Have you seen The Marvels? That's a girlboss movie, but it's not nearly as woke as something like Thor 4. And Thor 4 they started cutting back the woke from other post 2020 Marvel bombs. It's getting pulled back. Very slowly as if as much resistance is being put up to prevent it. But it's happening. In The Marvels, Capn Cuntface was to have a more romantic relationship with Valkyrie, but they cut that part out. The whole movie looks like it was missing lots of scenes due to them trying to hamper the woke garbage Nia Dacosta tried to put in. that movie was delayed like 4 times due to the many reshoots and editing.
 

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someday the adults will be back in charge. of course it will most likely be too late at that point, but they cant sustain this failure after failure business model for much longer. something gotta give. maybe when the parks completely alienate everyone including the "whales" and then a big fucking crash will hit Disney right in the jimmy.
The adults are in charge, their aims just don't align with ours.

There are two things going on at Disney:

1) Stakeholder Capitalism. Everything is about churning out loads of content, cutting costs and increasing prices to hit a quarterly earnings increase. Long term the company goes to shit but that's OK because you use the money to invest in the next thing you'll mine the value out of. This is a pervasive disease in buisness and politics at the moment.

2) Corporate Activism. Batshit insane people and ideas are funded and promoted to create plausible deniability for the above. Movie was shit? Audience is racist, give us more money to reach the kids and end fascism. Park attendence is low? It's those Covid rules we totally didn't lobby for to put everyone else out of buisness.

Sociopaths always corrupt society over long periods of time, sometimes reform comes from within, sometimes external events force change and sometimes you need a guillotine.
 
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Chukzombi

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The adults are in charge, their aims just don't align with ours.

There are two things going on at Disney:

1) Stakeholder Capitalism. Everything is about churning out loads of content, cutting costs and increasing prices to hit a quarterly earnings increase. Long term the company goes to shit but that's OK because you use the money to invest in the next thing you'll mine the value out of. This is a pervasive disease in buisness and politics at the moment.

2) Corporate Activism. Batshit insane people and ideas are funded and promoted to create plausible deniability for the above. Movie was shit? Audience is racist, give us more money to reach the kids and end fascism. Park attendence is low? It's those Covid rules we totally didn't lobby for to put everyone else out of buisness.

Sociopaths always corrupt society over long periods of time, sometimes reform comes from within, sometimes external events force change and sometimes you need a guillotine.
these arent mature or rational people. thats insanity to the extreme. there should only be one business model. keep the customers happy while making money. the customers are less happy now so they are making less money. people dont like being ripped off and feeling uncomfortable. especially when they're on vacation.
 
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Chris

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these arent mature or rational people. thats insanity to the extreme. there should only be one business model. keep the customers happy while making money. the customers are less happy now so they are making less money. people dont like being ripped off and feeling uncomfortable. especially when they're on vacation.
That's the old model of capitalism, that's not how it works now.

Now it's about getting the most money this quarter to get your bonus shares, keeping things running until you can sell the shares, then reinvesting it in something you are not ruining.

It's naive to think that the people in charge of the largest corporations in the world such as Disney are irrational children. They know exactly what they are doing.
 
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