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I’m glad I am not the only one who thinks all of those weird systems are a complete waste of time, just derailing the actual game development. I’m betting those cumbersome and awkward concepts came directly from their forums. It sounds exactly like the shit we’ve all seen posted in gaming...

These player models suck. Horribly.

Saw the news on fucking 4chan of all places. Figured this was the best place to say thanks and RIP Brad. EQ was an experience of a lifetime, incapsulating the newfound wonder of the Internet and my life-long passion for Fantasy, RPGs, and video games. I can still sit and play EQ for hours...

Sad news. Brad seemed lethargic and his speech sounded off, slurred a bit, over the past months/years. Maybe he had some ongoing health issues no one knew about. Maybe it was drugs, I don’t know. Whatever the case, he helped make one of my all time greatest gaming experiences and shaped the...

Hey guys how’s Pantheon development coming along? *watches 1,000 new falling gifs* Right on schedule! See you next year!

It’s ok, because even though the Pantheon Alpha was scheduled to launch “at the end of 2018” and hasn’t, that’s not really a delay. They’ve just “restructured their approach since then.” So totally not a delay guys. Restructuring approaches for the motherfucking win. I actually pledged to...

I boxed my Enc/Druid on the old progression server in 2010 or so, using only 1 PC and alt-tabbing. I solo’d the basement in Karnor’s on my grind to 60 for example, those skeletons that you have to swim to. That is a very tight-spaced area but once you break the spawn it wasn’t that bad, just...

Concern trolling is more fun if we pretend to actually care.

I just spent way too much time reading up on this thread, but I saw someone mention something (which I’m not gonna go back to find and quote sorry) that is really accurate: At some point Pantheon jumped the shark in terms of design direction. I’m thinking the pay-to-post suggestions forum may...

I don’t want EQNext Lion-man models, but the shit Pantheon has now is janky as hell. It reminds me of the Luclin models, standing all awkward or something. That “gnome” is especially bad, for example. They hired a new head art guy, maybe he’ll set a better general tone in design and...

Yeah, collecting items to turn in should be organic, not forced. You want to hear "Hey! I got the last bear-anus I needed, cool." Not, "Fuck, I just need one more 'Pristine bear-anus.' Goddamit, another 'ruined bear-anus?' Fuck this quest!" Modern MMOs just traded spawn camping for quest...

Oh shit Convo spotted in the live stream. I can't believe we managed to get one of our own on the inside. We're waiting for our top secret back door access codes man, come on!

I like those March newsletter screenshots. They look a bit less 2003. Hope the entire world gets that treatment, because it was looking real stiff and blocky there for a while. Generic.

Not even being sarcastic, this is high praise for Pantheon. More than most expected if I'm honest. The only reason I'm even on FoH to begin with is Pantheon. No one seems to remember that this board was the number 1 Pantheon fan site for a while there after initial announcement. Most people...

Where is Convo? Convo, how's alpha testing going bro?

Yeah I do agree that certain slots being crafted best-as worked in EQ, at least for things like 55/5 HP/AC rings, Bule Diamond resist gear in Velious, shit like that. At least there was no item decay. UO had a great crafting system but everything decayed in UO, which was unfortunate but did...

The problem is that for crafters to be happy, you need to pretty much have a crafting based economy. This can be miserable for the PVE player, because it means loot often becomes 2nd fiddle to crafted gear, or worse loot will be reduced to rare components used by crafters to make an item...

Man I really have mixed feelings about WoW, because I loved my time playing from 2004-06, but my god that game totally fucking wrecked the MMO genre. All the clones aside, the best example is Star Wars Galaxies, who were so desperate to copy WoW that they burned their own game to the ground...

I think a skillpoint-based system works a lot better than a class system in a crafting based economy. Being able to have both "blacksmithing" and "swordsmanship," plus some magic or healing skills etc, solves many problems with being gimped in group/combat and self reliance as a character. Or...

Ultimately the main problem with MMO's is all the other fucking people.

I always wondered why the Ultima Online/Star Wars Galaxies skill-based, player driven, open world style MMO was never done properly. WoW pretty much nailed the EQ style theme park, but nobody ever hit the perfect 3D skill based MMO. SWG still has the best crafting economy ever seen hands down...

Kek. But yeah, I could easily afford it, and the reason I can easily afford it is because I don't waste my money on this kind of shit.

Mother of God. Pre-alpha access is $1,000.00 and up. One. Thousand. Fucking. Dollars.

So they realized they hit the limit of people willing to buy imaginary space ships for a game that doesn't even exist, so then they had the brilliant idea to sell those same people imaginary land for a game that doesn't even exist. Why can't I come up with shit like this?

Yeah, I quit WoW just before the first expansion because my core group of friends quit. I'm going to play Wow Classic, but I'm not expecting it to be the same. Probably won't raid again, but whatever.

Man. I never thought a stream about making a door could be interesting, and I was right.

Because in 99 no one had gear, no one knew how to pull, no one knew the zones, and everyone around you was a stranger until you finally started thinning the wheat from the chaff of skilled players. Adds meant healer died and you wiped with a bunch of unreliable fuck ups down in some dark hole...

Two things: 1. Top fucking Kek that they made "You-think-you-do-but-you-don't-guy" do the Vanilla announcement. Wonder if Hoody-Senpai was in the crowd for that shit, masturbating furiously? 2. Pantheon is going to get wrecked by this, because WoW nostalgia > all. Brad BTFO by Blizzard...

Did none of you fucks play an Enchanter in EQ Trilogy era? No resource management? No mana problems? Jesus Christ I was constantly sweating blood trying to keep haste on whiney ass melee, clarity on the casters, mezzing adds, slowing if no Shaman, stupid Cleric wanting Rune, and God forbid...

Much of these problems, especially the gear score thing, stem from loss of MMO community. Your rep on the server should be your ticket to group, raid, etc. With cross server and LFG/LFR systems, no one knows who the fuck anyone else is anymore. Now you need a credit score (gear rating) in...

I've not kept track, like a log book or anything, but I've done some pretty fucked up grinding in MMO's over the years. I unlocked Jedi in Pre-CU SWG, profession grinding! See, in SWG, you became a Jedi by first becoming a Doctor, or a Dancer, or a Chef! Very epic path to the force, let me...

Yeah I agree. I remember this shit going from total fuzzy-troll cult-mode to an actual development project after that dude took over the heavy lifting. I hope he gets a career out of all this, seems like a talented, hard working professional.

Geoff Zatkin was the guy who did the spell system in EQ. That's like one of the best features of EQ. The entire spell system was dead-on balls tight and responsive. Is that dude working on the game? They need him to do their magic system for real.

This is a safe space bro, you can say "fucking retarded."

Damn I haven't checked this thread in a while and had to scroll back like a dozen fucking pages just to see that shitty trailer was the cause of all this ruckus? Also, that EQNext Cat Dude was named Keeshar. I just wanted to make sure y'all never forget that. Fucking Keeshar. So, that...

Haven't checked this thread in a while, see we're still talking more about EQ than Pantheon, but that's right up my alley. One of the things I noticed about EQ as I began to level my first character up into the 20's, and met a broader range of other players from different starting areas, was...

I can always find a race to play. Races don't bother me too much, unless it's those anime furry lolicon abominations. I don't usually play games with cat-eared infants running around, sorry. I have been missing the fast paced, dynamic crowd control class though. I'm glad to see Pantheon...

WTF was with Dain and drama? I remember being around when The Ring War got triggered and proofed the Dain while LoS? I think was fighting him. Major drama, guild break ups and shit. All around Dain? Also, I never understood cybering or whatever in a video game. Guess I was too old. I did...

Still watching the stream, but damn that disposition system sounds kind of ingenious. I mean, it's just a great idea that adds an element of fear, uncertainty, and doubt to simple camping! I really like that a lot. Having mobs with random personalities really adds an entire other dimension to...

Fuuuuck I missed the stream. Guess I'll have to wait for upload. I'm surprised how hyped I'm getting for this shit heh.