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Cases are more of an aesthetic thing for me than any benchmark. If I like the look of it , I use it. The one I have now, may not be for everyone but when I first saw it I thought it was beautiful.
Hell one day me & the wife were walking around Fry's (when they used to still be a thing) and I saw an all glass Corsair case and said, 'wow that is neat' and my wife told me to get it and get it right now. I never say wow about anything and she wanted me to have it (wife's a keeper gang and you cannot have her).

Now INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS , since you are going with an AIO for your CPU anyhow, bro spend the $$ and get an X3D CPU. You will NOT regret it.
 
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Cases are more of an aesthetic thing for me than any benchmark. If I like the look of it , I use it. The one I have now, may not be for everyone but when I first saw it I thought it was beautiful.
Hell one day me & the wife were walking around Fry's (when they used to still be a thing) and I saw an all glass Corsair case and said, 'wow that is neat' and my wife told me to get it and get it right now. I never say wow about anything and she wanted me to have it (wife's a keep gang and you cannot have her).

Now INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS , since you are going with an AIO for your CPU anyhow, bro spend the $$ and get an X3D CPU. You will NOT regret it.
actually INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS that id cooling aio water cooler was only recommended b/c you had such a tiny case, now that youre thinking of a regular mid sized case, you can get a 360 aio cooler instead
 
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Might wanna look towards be quiet or arctic cooling 3 for quieter profile
Thank you.

I know y’all recommended the x3d series but I’m also a little worried it’s about my budget.

9800x3d is $450. Definitely outside my budget.

I’m getting the sapphire nitro + 9070 XT 16 GB for $550 bc Amazon fucked up my order in June, and they’re giving me a discounted price. (Confirmed it this week they’re still going to honor that price)

when I looked up on videos the difference between the 7800x3d (was $320 on amazon today but sold out later in the day) vs the 9600x ($180), there wasn’t that big of a difference in 1440p games.

is there going to be a pretty sizable difference between 9600x and the 7800x3d? Tbh, if I’m going to regret and wish I had upgraded to the 3D, I might as well spend the extra $150 for a 7800x3d during the Black Friday sales. But not sure if it’s something that’s going to make a real difference.

I’m playing on a potato right now so any upgrade is a good one lol. I’m currently running 800p at 40-50 fps on low settings (with performance upscaling).
 

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Thank you.

I know y’all recommended the x3d series but I’m also a little worried it’s about my budget.

9800x3d is $450. Definitely outside my budget.

I’m getting the sapphire nitro + 9070 XT 16 GB for $550 bc Amazon fucked up my order in June, and they’re giving me a discounted price. (Confirmed it this week they’re still going to honor that price)

when I looked up on videos the difference between the 7800x3d (was $320 on amazon today but sold out later in the day) vs the 9600x ($180), there wasn’t that big of a difference in 1440p games.

is there going to be a pretty sizable difference between 9600x and the 7800x3d? Tbh, if I’m going to regret and wish I had upgraded to the 3D, I might as well spend the extra $150 for a 7800x3d during the Black Friday sales. But not sure if it’s something that’s going to make a real difference.

I’m playing on a potato right now so any upgrade is a good one lol. I’m currently running 800p at 40-50 fps on low settings (with performance upscaling).

Once you get past pure entry level models, CPU performance for gaming is mainly about two thing: Maximum FPS and frame-time consistency (1% lows, frame pacing, micro-stuttering, etc.). Moving up the stack from a 7600X -> 9600X -> 7800X3D -> 9800X3D with improve all of these things, and this happens even with a low-end GPU at 1080 or a high-end GPU at 4k. A 7600X will provide a quality experience for most gaming with a 9070XT, but a 9800X3D ensures you get the best from 9070XT at all times. Given what you are upgrading from you might even consider a 7600, 7600X, or (if you can track one down cheaply) a 7500F to get started, then upgrade to a X3D CPU in the future.

This video has some recent and direct comparisons between the 7600X, 9600X, and 9800X3D. The focus is on the 7600X vs 9600X with the 9800X3D for reference. And this video has a recent and direct comparison between the 7800X3D and 9800X3D. A 5090 is used, but this is done to show a CPU's maximum potential.
 
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Once you get past pure entry level models, CPU performance for gaming is mainly about two thing: Maximum FPS and frame-time consistency (1% lows, frame pacing, micro-stuttering, etc.). Moving up the stack from a 7600X -> 9600X -> 7800X3D -> 9800X3D with improve all of these things, and this happens even with a low-end GPU at 1080 or a high-end GPU at 4k. A 7600X will provide a quality experience for most gaming with a 9070XT, but a 9800X3D ensures you get the best from 9070XT at all times. Given what you are upgrading from you might even consider a 7600, 7600X, or (if you can track one down cheaply) a 7500F to get started, then upgrade to a X3D CPU in the future.

This video has some recent and direct comparisons between the 7600X, 9600X, and 9800X3D. The focus is on the 7600X vs 9600X with the 9800X3D for reference. And this video has a recent and direct comparison between the 7800X3D and 9800X3D. A 5090 is used, but this is done to show a CPU's maximum potential.
Thank you!

Yeah the 7600/x and the 9600x are about $20 apart, so I'm thinking (all of these are SALE prices Id wait for black friday for):

- 7600x3D ($300)
- 7800x3D ($330)
- 9600x ($165)
- 9700x ($200-265)

Right now there's a 7600x3D on Amazon listed for $300. But, at that price point, I might as well get a 7800x3D for $330 during the next sale.

I may eventually upgrade to a 9800x3d or something in Dec 2026, but I think that price range is a little out of my budget at the moment.
 

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I may eventually upgrade to a 9800x3d or something in Dec 2026, but I think that price range is a little out of my budget at the moment.

If you buy a 7600X3D or 7800X3D now, I would not recommend upgrading to the 9800X3D. Zen 6 should be compatible with AM5 mobos so a future upgrade to a 10800X3D might make sense. If you buy a 7600X or equivalent, then it probably makes sense to upgrade to X3D when you find a good price AND if you feel unsatisfied with your current gaming performance.

Just keep in mind there is no "perfect" match of CPU to GPU. A 7600X will sometimes hold back a 9070XT, but even a 5090 will sometimes hold back a 9800X3D. Whether there is a CPU bottleneck or GPU bottleneck will change game to game, and even scene to scene within the same game. While very fast, the most important gains from X3D have to do with frame pacing and 1% lows, meaning the game feels smoother. Put another way, a game at 60 FPS that runs at 60FPS 100% of the time will feel better to play than a game that runs at 100 FPS but has some frames dip down to 30FPS.

Not trying to offend, but given where you are coming from (800p w/upscaling), a 7600 and 9060XT is going to be a massive upgrade for you, let alone a 7800X3D and 9070XT. Just spend what you are comfortable spending and don't worry about chasing every last frame.
 
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Not trying to offend, but given where you are coming from, a 7600 and 9060XT is going to be a massive upgrade for you, let alone a 7800X3D and 9070XT. Just spend what you are comfortable spending and don't worry about chasing every last frame.
No offense taken. Tbh, the only reason I'm going with a 9070 XT 16 GB is because I personally have it discounted at $550. Otherwise, I'd just get a 5070 12 gb at the same price. I'm sure anything is going to impress me. When I play my XSX it feels insanely smooth compared to my Lenovo Legion Go, and the XSX is the equivalent of a 6600 XT or 2060.
 

Lanx

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No offense taken. Tbh, the only reason I'm going with a 9070 XT 16 GB is because I personally have it discounted at $550. Otherwise, I'd just get a 5070 12 gb at the same price. I'm sure anything is going to impress me. When I play my XSX it feels insanely smooth compared to my Lenovo Legion Go, and the XSX is the equivalent of a 6600 XT or 2060.
did you buy this 9070 yet or you are trusting an amazon handshake? lulz
 

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did you buy this 9070 yet or you are trusting an amazon handshake? lulz
If it’s from amazon.com as the seller, they have a lot of flexibility. And I have it in writing from amazon customer support.

a similar situation happened with my legion go, and they sold that to me in fall 2024 for $400.
 

Lanx

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If it’s from amazon.com as the seller, they have a lot of flexibility. And I have it in writing from amazon customer support.

a similar situation happened with my legion go, and they sold that to me in fall 2024 for $400.
well in that case why not buy it now then, cuz if you wait for prime days it'll be out of stock
 
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well in that case why not buy it now then, cuz if you wait for prime days it'll be out of stock
My buddy who is gonna help me build it is in Europe til next month. I’ll buy em all at the same time just to make sure everything is within the return window in case of defect parts.
 

Lanx

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My buddy who is gonna help me build it is in Europe til next month. I’ll buy em all at the same time just to make sure everything is within the return window in case of defect parts.
ok i'll just say that even tho you plan to "buy it all at the same time" doesn't mean you'll get everything you want in time, many ppl have planned a build and have been delayed for whatever reason
and it doesn't seem like your timeline is flexible
 
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