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Fiyero_sl

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Any language learners here? Didn't see a thread on it, but is there any interest in practicing languages here, giving tips on learning, helping with vocab/grammar?

I'm currently teaching myself French and Russian.
 

Szlia

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Il y a plusieurs personnes qui parlent fran?ais sur le forum. Il y a aussi des gens qui parlent allemand, russe et des langues nordiques. Il me semble qu'il y a ?galement plusieurs personnes qui parlent le chinois (langue maternelle) et le japonais (appris), au moins une qui parle espagnol et j'imagine que beaucoup d'autres langues sont repr?sent?es sur ce forum qui est assez international (il n'y avait pas de zones g?ographiques pour les serveurs d'Everquest).

EDIT: Ma langue ?trang?re c'est l'anglais! Avec un peu d'allemand et de japonais.
 

Szlia

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Merci. Est-ce que vous aimez l'allemand?C'estune langue que je veux apprendre.
I tried to write a little essay on It's, This is, There is, He is, C'est and Il est but it's not simple to explain grammar! I tried to devise a good translation rule, but every time I thought I got one, I found a dozen exceptions!


Quand j'?tais ? l'?cole je n'aimais pas l'allemand car j'?tais tr?s mauvais! J'?tais aussi mauvais en anglais, mais au moins j'avais envie de l'apprendre!
 

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Fiyero_sl

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I tried to write a little essay on It's, This is, There is, He is, C'est and Il est but it's not simple to explain grammar! I tried to devise a good translation rule, but every time I thought I got one, I found a dozen exceptions!


Quand j'?tais ? l'?cole je n'aimais pas l'allemand car j'?tais tr?s mauvais! J'?tais aussi mauvais en anglais, mais au moins j'avais envie de l'apprendre!
Hmm. I looked that one up, because I figured I'd make that mistake. Il est is used when referring to something already mentioned. Since I mentioned l'allemand, I figured that would be the correct "It is".
 

Szlia

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Hmm. I looked that one up, because I figured I'd make that mistake. Il est is used when referring to something already mentioned. Since I mentioned l'allemand, I figured that would be the correct "It is".
Your logic is not wrong. Instead of repeating "L'allemand" (Est-ce que vous aimez l'allemand? L'allemand est une langue que je veux apprendre.) which would be correct but not very natural, you used a pronoun. You just did not pick the right one, but I would have a hard time explaining why, so I'll just throw some examples at you:

Bob, il est grand. (adjective)
Bob, il est m?decin. (profession/religion/nationality can be used like adjectives to describe someone)
Bob, c'est un m?decin. (noun - with determiner - the meaning is identical to the previous example)
Bob, c'est un ami de ma soeur. (same structure as above)
L'allemand, c'est une langue que je veux apprendre. (same structure as above)

NB: Bob, c'est grand. (A bit strange, but could be correct if Bob did something great and the sentence was the title of a newspaper article or something similar)

Now just to mess with our heads:

Le fran?ais, c'est difficile. (adjective... and now both our heads hurt)
Le fran?ais, il est difficile. (the sentence is correct if "Le fran?ais" is to describe a specific french person or an archetype)
La langue fran?aise, elle est difficile. (heads still hurting)
La langue fran?aise, c'est difficile. (Also correct. Heads are not feeling any better!)

Mais bonne chance!
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*Edit* One of your best friends when studying Russian will behttp://www.multitran.ru. Awesome online dictionary. Use it. Love it.