Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

Hieromonk

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Guess that's what he likes to listen to while doing the pvp that isn't gonna happen on the vaporware
You guys are right about this scam being vaporware

I regret that I didn’t listen 10 years ago

Too bad I have fell for it because of brad
I wish he would just die sooner could have saved me $100 usd

I don’t get it, what have they been doing for the past 10 years with all that money? And where did that money spent?

After all these years of making bizarre and questionable decisions,lol remember they acting all secrecy with all that NDA BULLSHIT and that project247 battle royal gamethey claim can be “collecting useful data”lol

you wonder if the entire thing is just a money laundering scheme.

They have 11 years and 11 MILLIONS in net funding.

Literally 100x more than Monsters and Memories, and those guys did more in 4 years with 100x less money and with just 1x people pooling up their personal saving garage developer style
A game that’s actually fun with a huge working connected sprawling main city hub doesn’t feel barebones, and is open to public testing without needing to “upgrade your pledge” for $1000 USD.

It was like waking up from a scam i wish i could take back the $180 i have spent on this scam vaporware
 
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Flobee

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I mean at this point its definitely not vaporware. Its also not 11 years and $11m(?) in value either. I don't regret my $40 on Pantheon but wouldn't recommend my friends to buy it in its current state. I've had enough fun to justify it and there is potential there. They are moving significantly slower with an apparently 40+ person team of full time employees (with a CEO apparently? lol) than MnM is with its weekend warriors.

From what I've seen, unless something drastic changes, MnM will bury Pantheon and with whatever Evercraft Online is now coming fairly soon too, its going to be a crowded market all at about the same time. I'd love all three to succeed but...
 
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jayrebb

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I mean at this point its definitely not vaporware. Its also not 11 years and $11m(?) in value either. I don't regret my $40 on Pantheon but wouldn't recommend my friends to buy it in its current state. I've had enough fun to justify it and there is potential there. They are moving significantly slower with an apparently 40+ person team of full time employees (with a CEO apparently? lol) than MnM is with its weekend warriors.

From what I've seen, unless something drastic changes, MnM will bury Pantheon and with whatever Evercraft Online is now coming fairly soon too, its going to be a crowded market all at about the same time. I'd love all three to succeed but...

No way is that true.

Unless I see paperwork, there are no 40 full time employees. We were discussing this among a few industry people.

Unless the project leader is specifically telling employees to not work on certain things, and do nothing (which makes no sense, but that was one proposed theory) there is likely only a very tiny handful of "full time" employees at VR who are on payroll and qualify as full-time under labor law.

As low as 3-4, and I bet you would struggle to provide receipts on even just 3 people at VR.

Just no.
 
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moonarchia

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I mean at this point its definitely not vaporware. Its also not 11 years and $11m(?) in value either. I don't regret my $40 on Pantheon but wouldn't recommend my friends to buy it in its current state. I've had enough fun to justify it and there is potential there. They are moving significantly slower with an apparently 40+ person team of full time employees (with a CEO apparently? lol) than MnM is with its weekend warriors.

From what I've seen, unless something drastic changes, MnM will bury Pantheon and with whatever Evercraft Online is now coming fairly soon too, its going to be a crowded market all at about the same time. I'd love all three to succeed but...
Did 1.0 drop while I was sleeping? If not, still vaporware. Fun vaporware, but not a game yet.

MnM has some serious hurdles coming up. If it gets people to willing pay a full monthly sub for EA that's one hurdle. If DBG decides to be charitable and not sue them into oblivion for copyright infringement that is the second hurdle. I wish them luck, and if it ever gets to 1.0 I will probably give it a go.
 

Zaide

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Did 1.0 drop while I was sleeping? If not, still vaporware. Fun vaporware, but not a game yet.

MnM has some serious hurdles coming up. If it gets people to willing pay a full monthly sub for EA that's one hurdle. If DBG decides to be charitable and not sue them into oblivion for copyright infringement that is the second hurdle. I wish them luck, and if it ever gets to 1.0 I will probably give it a go.
DPG can't even ban cheaters, no chance they're banning a whole MMO.
 
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moonarchia

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DPG can't even ban cheaters, no chance they're banning a whole MMO.
They wouldn't want to. The ideal for DBG would be to do to MnM what the Rolling Stones did to the Verve. Right now there is no money to be made by suing because they aren't charging for it.
 
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Nirgon

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You guys are right about this scam being vaporware

I regret that I didn’t listen 10 years ago

Too bad I have fell for it because of brad
I wish he would just die sooner could have saved me $100 usd

I don’t get it, what have they been doing for the past 10 years with all that money? And where did that money spent?

After all these years of making bizarre and questionable decisions,lol remember they acting all secrecy with all that NDA BULLSHIT and that project247 battle royal gamethey claim can be “collecting useful data”lol

you wonder if the entire thing is just a money laundering scheme.

They have 11 years and 11 MILLIONS in net funding.

Literally 100x more than Monsters and Memories, and those guys did more in 4 years with 100x less money and with just 1x people pooling up their personal saving garage developer style
A game that’s actually fun with a huge working connected sprawling main city hub doesn’t feel barebones, and is open to public testing without needing to “upgrade your pledge” for $1000 USD.

It was like waking up from a scam i wish i could take back the $180 i have spent on this scam vaporware

Did Jussie Smollet write this
 
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Nirgon

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Feels good

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Rezz

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I'm behind; has there been a mention of potential large scale release, or is it still in the "if we get more funding, we can do xxx" stage?
 

moonarchia

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I'm behind; has there been a mention of potential large scale release, or is it still in the "if we get more funding, we can do xxx" stage?
It has released in Early Access. Servers are up 24/7. No monthly sub, but you do have to shell out $40 on Steam to play from 0.16(current) to 1.0. 5 zones are up and running. There is stuff to do from 1-30. 13/14 classes are in, most are unfinished. They are currently (slowly) working on getting content added and class kits to 40 fleshed out. They put out 2 pvp servers, and a fresh start server.

I remain unconvinced this will ever make it out of vasporware with a 1.0 long term release, but what is in place now has kept me happily distracted for 4 months.
 

Zaide

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There are also two raid mobs in but the way Pantheon combat works they’re basically just group mobs when fought at the appropriate levels.
 

DickTrickle

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There are also two raid mobs in but the way Pantheon combat works they’re basically just group mobs when fought at the appropriate levels.
What do you mean by "the way Pantheon combat works" that makes a supposed raid mob not harder than a group mob?
 

Zaide

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What do you mean by "the way Pantheon combat works" that makes a supposed raid mob not harder than a group mob?
Basically if a mob red to you, you can't really hit it. So normally like Nagafen or Trak they'd be red cons and you fight them with 30+ people but in Pantheon they need to be within like 3-4 levels to even touch them, so you just end up coming when the mob is like white/yellow con to you and it takes 1-2 groups at most.
 
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Nirgon

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I think this is to say you can get to the mobs in question with a raid of non 40s and kill them OR you can get to them with a group max levels and do them in a drawn out but possible fight
 

Los_Necros

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What makes a mob a raid mob? Long repop with no placeholder? Did they announce them as raid bosses? Or are they just hard mobs that people considered raid bosses when they were low level?