The Painted Bird (2019)

The cast is certainly significant. But if it has a bunch of terrible shit happening to animals and a young boy, I will simply skip this. Too sensitive to that shit in my dotage to appreciate it as any sort of "art".

Slaanesh69 said:

The cast is certainly significant. But if it has a bunch of terrible shit happening to animals and a young boy, I will simply skip this. Too sensitive to that shit in my dotage to appreciate it as any sort of "art".

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It does. The opening scene is a small animal being burned alive. Going to skip as well.

Yeah. I don't see the point. Taking shock jocking to a new level.

Is the whole thing in black and white too?

I would have watched something like this in my 20's. I've seen enough evil in the world since then to not need to see this, I expect.

"The Painted Bird is a 1965 novel by Jerzy Kosiński that describes World War II as seen by a boy, considered a "Gypsy or Jewish stray,"[1] wandering about small villages scattered around an unspecified country in Eastern Europe. The story was originally introduced by Kosiński as autobiographical. It was only upon its publication by Houghton Mifflin that he quietly refrained from making such claims any further. Assumed by reviewers to be a memoir of a Jewish survivor and witness to the Holocaust telling the supposed true story of his search for the deported family, the book received enthusiastic reviews. However, within two decades it was discovered that the story was not only fictional,[2] but also plagiarized from popular books written in the Polish language, largely unknown to English readers.[3]
It is almost certain that Kosiński did not write the novel himself since his command of English was too limited around the time the novel was written. In a series of articles in newspapers and books that followed, it was revealed that Kosiński engaged in wilful deception in order to corroborate the claim of being separated from his family,[2] and that he did not share any of the boy's experiences.[4] Unlike the main character of the novel, Kosiński spent the times of war hidden by a Polish Catholic family who confirmed that his living conditions were excellent; he even had a female servant to look after his needs.[5]"

Thought it was interesting.

The vibes in this remind me of Come and See which even though it's Russian and from 1985 is probably one of the best war films ever made. It's horrific -Animals get killed in that too.

OneofOne said:

he even had a female servant to look after his needs.[5]"

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Some of us have different views of a sad childhood.

I mean... technically he was a holocaust survivor. He just didn't aimlessly wonder around Eastern Europe evading the Nazi death machine by fate and determination. He sat in some rich people house with a female servant to "meet his needs"

Here is the thing... won't he profit off this movie? Lol

pharmakos said:

you sound like someone who was born into wealth and are projecting here as some sort of subconscious effort to deal with some deep seeded feelings you hold about your own high station in the world.

“It often comforts me to think that, even in war’s darkest days, in most places in the world, absolutely nothing is happening.” -- Blackfish, Game of Thrones

i mean, read these two sentences back to yourself, seriously:



and again, just because of how incredulous i am over what you wrote... evading the Nazi death machine by fate and determination vs. sitting in some rich people's house with a female servant to "meet his needs"....

- evading Nazi death machine
- sitting in mansion with servant

actually, yeah, now i see your point, that pretty much is the same fucking difference, everyone should just forget that this guy fabricated any part of the story whatsoever!

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Can you be a little more coherent, because this is rambling and confusing as fuck. I am unsure why you are in knots over people criticizing the author for making bank on lies about his travails during WWII, but I am genuinely interested in your viewpoint.

I don't think anyone resents him for having better luck during the war, with decent food and shelter and apparently regular handjobs as all the "meet his needs" quotations imply. There is, however, serious judgement on him for falsely representing his own travails for profit. This is seen as belittling actual survivor's experiences by co-opting them and gaining from them.

It is Stolen Valor in the literary world, and look at the hard on society has for Stolen Valor.

If the author had called it a fiction from the start would anyone give a fuck? Probably not.

Slaanesh69 said:

Can you be a little more coherent, because this is rambling and confusing as fuck. I am unsure why you are in knots over people criticizing the author for making bank on lies about his travails during WWII, but I am genuinely interested in your viewpoint.

I don't think anyone resents him for having better luck during the war, with decent food and shelter and apparently regular handjobs as all the "meet his needs" quotations imply. There is, however, serious judgement on him for falsely representing his own travails for profit. This is seen as belittling actual survivor's experiences by co-opting them and gaining from them.

It is Stolen Valor in the literary world, and look at the hard on society has for Stolen Valor.

If the author had called it a fiction from the start would anyone give a fuck? Probably not.

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Right... umm I am confused as well lol

Did I not admonish the fact that this guy will most likely AGAIN profit from others suffering (or illustrations thereof) being a virtue of the movie being based upon his BOOK?

From the linked above article he started his book campaign saying it was "him" that did "these things" that are described in the book...and it turns out it was not even him or partially his exp with some other of his co-miserants stories put in... then some of it or ALL of it was not even based on "actual" accounts but on "well it could have been"

And the fact is ALL of that would have been okay if he just was like "its historical fiction based upon many different stories of survivors."

AND it all turns out that this dude was completely inoculated from the "events" in even such a degree HE has his OWN FEMALE SERVENT for his "needs" (yes 'needs' may just be a funny translation, but yeah lol 'needs' is commonly implied to mean 'sexual needs')

Well, I rather watch Ivan's Childhood - Wikipedia again then. No shlock shock moments needed in that movie.

"Some of us have a different view of a sad childhood" was sarcasm to "him" the dude faking this shit that if having a female handy servent(slave) was in his mind "sad" then... Well.. What the he'll was MY childhood?

And again, sarcasm and "really... evading Nazi and death camps is the same as chilln with rich peeps and a Hj maid?!" - again... I think my sarcasm just swept by ya

Lol it's all good, don't go taken sleepy pills and waking up nude 5 miles from home and a warrant.

While technically a holocaust survivor, when that term is used most people imagine a tattoo on their arm.

Which is not to belittle his ordeal because there's something to that as well. There is, even if he was comfortable. It's two different things though and why people might feel ill used.

He obviously agreed since he stopped saying it.

Xadion said:

Here is the thing... won't he profit off this movie? Lol

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People who published books in 1965 and were teenagers during WWII are likely to be dead in 2019. In the specific case of this author, he died almost 30 years ago.