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TomServo

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You're just a faggot and people are tired of your constant bullshitting and lying in what is otherwise a more serious discussion about careers.
Amen. His dumb ass needs to he nuked. I believe two things. He's a faggot. And he lives in florida.
 
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You're just a faggot and people are tired of your constant bullshitting and lying in what is otherwise a more serious discussion about careers.
You along with several others act like I’m belittling people with lower TC and that couldn’t be anything further from the truth.

I’ve given detailed interview study guides and online resources to help people grow their career and max TC. It seems this irritates people because they see how much they could be making, despite me repeatedly saying TC isn’t the whole picture. Hell I’m not sure it’s even half the picture.. I have a high TC and my company makes sure they make me work for every penny of it - constant 10-12 hour days, some weekends and oncall rotations. It’s a sacrifice that right now I’m willing to make. I don’t think it’s ideal for everyone by any means. It’s definitely not a sustainable lifestyle.

This all seems to rustle a few people when someone comes in here with a different experience and perspective. I genuinely want people on this forum to absolutely crush it in their careers. It sounds like you are crushing it TJT TJT and I’m happy for you.


Ill peace out of here as any resources/advice I give seem to really upset a group of people. ✌️
 
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TJT

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You along with several others act like I’m belittling people with lower TC and that couldn’t be anything further from the truth.

I’ve given detailed interview study guides and online resources to help people grow their career and max TC. It seems this irritates people because they see how much they could be making, despite me repeatedly saying TC isn’t the whole picture. Hell I’m not sure it’s even half the picture.. I have a high TC and my company makes sure they make me work for every penny of it - constant 10-12 hour days, some weekends and oncall rotations. It’s a sacrifice that right now I’m willing to make. I don’t think it’s ideal for everyone by any means. It’s definitely not a sustainable lifestyle.

This all seems to rustle a few people when someone comes in here with a different experience and perspective. I genuinely want people on this forum to absolutely crush it in their careers. It sounds like you are crushing it TJT TJT and I’m happy for you.


Ill peace out of here as any resources/advice I give seem to really upset a group of people. ✌️
Linking levels.fyi four times in a row isn't exactly top quality resource. Any retard can do that. Nobody denies that Silicon Valley and Google can pay top dollar. Yes its a real thing. Referring to it as "just get this job" is stupid and I only see this on reddit where people are equally as ignorant about it.

Everyone knows you're full of shit and nobody believes you. Simple as.
 
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TJT

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So get this. Been doing a few interviews this week and had this one kid from Taiwan. I thought it was just a language barrier thing as he had a thick accent. But he was weirdly distracted while I was asking questions. Which I again attributed to the language barrier.

Turns out he had an AI going on during the interview that would listen to the questions and parse them. Then he was trying to process the answer. The recruiter told me that the dude had no accent at all during the initial interview. Then she tells me that its way worse in the other engineering roles. This was for a junior data analyst role and I only asked basic SQL questions and some other stuff.

Its also getting more normal to use an AI to make your face appear to be focused while you're actually looking at the other screen for answers. In person only is going to be a thing again real quick.
 
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I’m about to start interviewing as we just got our next seed round(sad panda dilution but whatever). I am guessing I’ll encounter this? Doesn’t your company have a 30-90 day no reason termination clause? I mean, these people must be caught quickly in the real world.
 

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This type of thing (not specifically with AI but the practice in general) has been going on for a long time.

The two biggest "WTF" moments I've had personally were when we interviewed and hired a junior developer and the person that showed up their first day was a completely different person. They had a stand in do the actual interview process and I guess thought we wouldn't realize this? That was fucking bonkers.

The other weird one, though not a fake interview story, was when we hired a senior DBA and on his very first day he demanded more money and was unceremoniously escorted off the premises. That one was just...weird. No idea what that guy was thinking
 
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This type of thing (not specifically with AI but the practice in general) has been going on for a long time.

The two biggest "WTF" moments I've had personally were when we interviewed and hired a junior developer and the person that showed up their first day was a completely different person. They had a stand in do the actual interview process and I guess thought we wouldn't realize this? That was fucking bonkers.

The other weird one, though not a fake interview story, was when we hired a senior DBA and on his very first day he demanded more money and was unceremoniously escorted off the premises. That one was just...weird. No idea what that guy was thinking
The best one I had was this guy got hired has to go through new hire orientation and training blah blah. Like 3rd day on the job, he's like "man I need a breakfast burrito". I told him there's a food truck that comes by around 10:30 (15 min away). He looks at me says "nah can't wait". He walked out the door and never saw him again. He even left a bunch of random personal stuff in his cube.

Like wtf.
 
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Khane

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The best one I had was this guy got hired has to go through new hire orientation and training blah blah. Like 3rd day on the job, he's like "man I need a breakfast burrito". I told him there's a food truck that comes by around 10:30 (15 min away). He looks at me says "nah can't wait". He walked out the door and never saw him again. He even left a bunch of random personal stuff in his cube.

Like wtf.

Did you check the obituaries? Might have been a killer burrito
 
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Did you check the obituaries? Might have been a killer burrito
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ronne

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How many of these fake interview people are pajeets? People have been massaging their resumes for years as job posting requirements got more and more ridiculous sounding over the years, but there are definitely some fucks out there that just straight up cannot do the jobs they apply for.

When I got my first data center job many many years ago the guy I was hired to replaced had basically lied his way in to the job. His previous work experience was literally only McDonald's but he had somehow managed to convince whoever was in charge of hiring he could actually do NOC work at the DC.

He definitely could not. He was around for a few weeks after they hired me while I trained and learned their systems etc. I came in one morning (he worked overnight) and he was like sweeping/mopping the floor of the NOC office? I was like Joe what the fuck are you doing, and his immediate response is 'the internets down so I figured i'd clean up a bit'. Like uhm bro we're in a Comcast datacenter, WE ARE THE FUCKIN INTERNET WHAT DO YOU MEAN ITS DOWN.

After a couple phone calls and a lot of people cursing at me, which I felt was a tad unfair, it turns out the fuckin dude saw a stray ethernet cable lying on a switch on a bench and just 'plugged it in cause it was unplugged', to a random port, which caused a massive fucking broadcast storm within the switch and brought down most of the entire network for our racks.
 
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How many of these fake interview people are pajeets? People have been massaging their resumes for years as job posting requirements got more and more ridiculous sounding over the years, but there are definitely some fucks out there that just straight up cannot do the jobs they apply for.

When I got my first data center job many many years ago the guy I was hired to replaced had basically lied his way in to the job. His previous work experience was literally only McDonald's but he had somehow managed to convince whoever was in charge of hiring he could actually do NOC work at the DC.

He definitely could not. He was around for a few weeks after they hired me while I trained and learned their systems etc. I came in one morning (he worked overnight) and he was like sweeping/mopping the floor of the NOC office? I was like Joe what the fuck are you doing, and his immediate response is 'the internets down so I figured i'd clean up a bit'. Like uhm bro we're in a Comcast datacenter, WE ARE THE FUCKIN INTERNET WHAT DO YOU MEAN ITS DOWN.

After a couple phone calls and a lot of people cursing at me, which I felt was a tad unfair, it turns out the fuckin dude saw a stray ethernet cable lying on a switch on a bench and just 'plugged it in cause it was unplugged', to a random port, which caused a massive fucking broadcast storm within the switch and brought down most of the entire network for our racks.
How long ago was this? That sounds vaguely familiar, and I was with Comcast from 2005-2016.
 

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How many of these fake interview people are pajeets? People have been massaging their resumes for years as job posting requirements got more and more ridiculous sounding over the years, but there are definitely some fucks out there that just straight up cannot do the jobs they apply for.

When I got my first data center job many many years ago the guy I was hired to replaced had basically lied his way in to the job. His previous work experience was literally only McDonald's but he had somehow managed to convince whoever was in charge of hiring he could actually do NOC work at the DC.

He definitely could not. He was around for a few weeks after they hired me while I trained and learned their systems etc. I came in one morning (he worked overnight) and he was like sweeping/mopping the floor of the NOC office? I was like Joe what the fuck are you doing, and his immediate response is 'the internets down so I figured i'd clean up a bit'. Like uhm bro we're in a Comcast datacenter, WE ARE THE FUCKIN INTERNET WHAT DO YOU MEAN ITS DOWN.

After a couple phone calls and a lot of people cursing at me, which I felt was a tad unfair, it turns out the fuckin dude saw a stray ethernet cable lying on a switch on a bench and just 'plugged it in cause it was unplugged', to a random port, which caused a massive fucking broadcast storm within the switch and brought down most of the entire network for our racks.
The guy I fired last year was kinda like this. Not nearly as bad though. I attributed it to him spending way too much time working for a government agency.

He expected to be handheld through every single task he had and given a clear step by step instruction on how to do it. I was like dude, your job is to solve problems. Here is our problem, I do not know the solution because its your job to solve it. If I have to walk you through exactly how to diagnose, troubleshoot, and develop a solution then there is no point in me talking to you at all as you do nothing but sandbag me from doing it myself.

For whatever reason he never understood that and was just a liability. So out he went. I kind of put people into two categories now.

1. Task oriented. Likes to work in an environment where your job is to do something and every task within that something is cleanly defined. Like a support role or something.
2. Problem/Solution oriented workflow. Give someone a problem and they start digging and working to find something to solve it.

I dislike the term "self starter" but it can be applied here. Type 1 is not a self starter and expects to be led to water in every situation.
 

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The guy I fired last year was kinda like this. Not nearly as bad though. I attributed it to him spending way too much time working for a government agency.

He expected to be handheld through every single task he had and given a clear step by step instruction on how to do it. I was like dude, your job is to solve problems. Here is our problem, I do not know the solution because its your job to solve it. If I have to walk you through exactly how to diagnose, troubleshoot, and develop a solution then there is no point in me talking to you at all as you do nothing but sandbag me from doing it myself.

For whatever reason he never understood that and was just a liability. So out he went. I kind of put people into two categories now.

1. Task oriented. Likes to work in an environment where your job is to do something and every task within that something is cleanly defined. Like a support role or something.
2. Problem/Solution oriented workflow. Give someone a problem and they start digging and working to find something to solve it.

I dislike the term "self starter" but it can be applied here. Type 1 is not a self starter and expects to be led to water in every situation.
I call people who can code but are task oriented "programmers" or "coders". People who can also problem solve and understand and translate requirements "developers". People who also actually know math and low level languages "engineers".
 
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ronne

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How long ago was this? That sounds vaguely familiar, and I was with Comcast from 2005-2016.

Heh like 2009 or so? It was the Cimco2 facility in the south loop Chicago.

We weren't direct Comcast employees but were renting a few rows in one of their DCs.
 

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Heh like 2009 or so? It was the Cimco2 facility in the south loop Chicago.

We weren't direct Comcast employees but were renting a few rows in one of their DCs.
Ok, I was doing business support at that point. That wasn't too long after Comcast and TWC split up Adelphia.
 

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Turns out he had an AI going on during the interview that would listen to the questions and parse them. Then he was trying to process the answer. The recruiter told me that the dude had no accent at all during the initial interview. Then she tells me that its way worse in the other engineering roles. This was for a junior data analyst role and I only asked basic SQL questions and some other stuff.

Its also getting more normal to use an AI to make your face appear to be focused while you're actually looking at the other screen for answers. In person only is going to be a thing again real quick.
Much more common than you think;


Probably a person or two who has used this to get hired at your place;

 

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Looks like I'll be getting an architect position rather than a management position.

Whatevs!
 
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