Quantum of Solace

Just rewatched this movie today and enjoyed it tremendously again. Cant believe its already been 5 years. I wish they would bring back Marc Forster to direct the next Bond film.

I really wanted to like Skyfall and at some point I think I convinced myself it was a good movie, but after rewatching it - it really fell apart for me by the end.

I think Quantum has several fantastic scenes like the entire Opera sequence, the assault on the Hotel, the airplane sequence - as well as great locations. The plot and the villain are also fantastic, instead of the usual gimmicky death ray tropes, or trying to get all the money in the world, it has the prescience to consider water rights as something that people will be fighting over tooth and nail in 20-30 years and use it as a plot device. Dominic Greene is a great villain too, the actor who plays him did a fantastic job. Certainly a better villain than Le Chiffre or Raoul Silva

Quantum of Solace was a fantastic title.

Kreugen_sl said:

Much of the movie made no sense because the writers strike forced them to shoot with a shitty script. The Mathis scene, the ambiguous closure to the Vesper storyline, etc. And trying to make Olga Kuriniakkoyao Bolivian failed horribly. And who gives a shit about a plot to sell expensive water to people in a third world dump?

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Kreugen is the perfect example of a viewer, for whom the plot flew entirely over his head.

Mathis scene - Medrano/Greene tortured Mathis to get info about Bond from him, then shoved him into the trunk of Bond's car, then tipped off the cops about it. Likely the cops were working for Medrano anyways and had orders to kill them both.

Vesper - nothing ambiguous about it. She was the one who betrayed Bond to Le Chiffre in Montenegro and he wiped him out financially and then she wouldnt let him reup so that Bond would lose the tournament. He only stayed in because Leiter gave him his stake. The final scene in Quantum explains how Yusef would seduce high ranking women and then get "kidnapped" so that they could blackmail them. She is vindicated at the end because Bond realizes that Quantum forced her to do things against her will.

Olga Kurylenko was OK as a Bolivian. This isn't much of a complaint.

The plot wasnt to sell "expensive water", it was to sell water, period, to people who would have access to none. In this scenario water becomes more expensive than oil or gold. But if a viewer doesnt know anything about water rights, or water politics - its no surprise that something like this would fly entirely over their head. It's a genius plot point honestly.

Xarpolis_sl said:

It was extremely easy to follow. They practically spoon fed that having access to no water would drive up the prices making it the most valuable thing possible. His argument is that the idea of no water in a 3rd world shit hole wasn't interesting to him. Thus, he had little care in the outcome of the story.

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Ok, I can see that.

But it's still about money. Either making money by selling that water back to Bolivian government to keep their people from rioting and overthrowing the government or by having a Poker Holdem Tournament in former Yugoslavia or by "controlling all the markets in the world" or whatever the fuck Raoul Silva claimed he was going to do in Skyfall aside from taking his revenge on M.