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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Ah yes, the unenforceable NDA trick. I know it well. The one where, if you post anonymously or under a pseudonym, no-one knows or can know who you are or prove or disprove anything you claim? :p Yes, very.. pointless. Here, I'll show you how it's done.. " I have a friend in pre-alpha, and she...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Just like their alleged solutions or designs for dealing with 25+ year old MMO problems: "can't talk about it". Riiiight. Any company interested in acquiring Visionary Realms would likely only be doing it to acquire their debt, not their IP. There are certain very specific financial...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    On the plus side, that will be 1 out of 3 of the new September 2020 Pantheon " Key Unique Features ", fulfilled! No more do you have to worry about those pesky tenets, features, or differences that gathered pledges for 6.5 years after the failed kickstarter. ( They have been removed from the...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Happily, on the "good news if you're insane" front, 'iksar', fanboi extraordinaire #2, confirmed this evening that in-combat mana regen is no longer a mechanic for Pantheon: So they've got that going for them, now, as a primary combat mechanic differentiation. :emoji_thumbsup:
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    This is probably the best summary I've seen, so far. From 'Nick' on the official forums, here.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yep, emails went out today, August 6th, [ link to site referenced in the email ]. Quoting it below in a spoiler, for posterity. Lots of vague timelines with a 'soon' promise, and.. confirmation that "the combat system has undergone a major overhaul", whatever that actually means? No mention...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Apparently, it's like this: Assign a tier of content to a color, and each column represents a zone. Now, you gate content, vertically, so that your players get the joy of running around to all the zones, and can only climb so high in that zone to consume that content. Of course, the whole...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    The really sad part is things like climbing are going to require all the zones to be re-done, because they want to use it ~everywhere as a content gate. I suspect the whole schtick will be, you come to this zone at level 5, you can adventure on the ground. Then once your climbing skill gets to...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    A snark-filled commentary of that video, if you're inclined: - new website. well underway. content is not complete. base template shown. pledge button mentioned. all placeholder content. It will have a news section. synopsis of the game, screenshot section. a subscribe button, whatever that...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Apparently by Sept 21, 2020, Farthall will be done enough to allow less than 1500 players to test it, yes. As of today, it has been over 2 years since work on Farthall started. Seems totally reasonable for one area or region, right? (The fanbois will be in here in 30 seconds saying, " It's not...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Nothing they've shown to date hasn't been done already, and better, in many other games. There's nothing unique, apart from really bad writing.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Looks like they're going down the Vanguard path on this one. Throw a different head on a model that is 95% human and call it a new race. When you compare the Skar with the Skar.. I'm not personally convinced they're realizing their style or artistic "vision".
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    On the funding front, apparently, as of February 23, 2020, having a company fully fund this mess to launch is now a possibility. Why do I keep thinking about Vanguard? Meh, must be a coincidence. :emoji_thinking:
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    It's slow by any measure. They've taken twice as long as it took to develop EQ1, from scratch, and are still in pre-alpha. The videos they showed in 2016 are not significantly different than what they're showing in 2020. The retconners claim the "actual" development starting in 2015, not 2014...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    True. They demonstrated movement, fighting, combat, aggro, factions, grouping, death, teleportation, climbing, spells, abilities, gear, looting, pretty much the entirety of the adventure loop, back in 2016, in the first amberfaet video. Since then, they still haven't made all the big decisions...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Amberfaet, Dec 11, 2016, after vestibule: Amberfaet, Dec 12, 2019, after vestibule: Looks like they changed the global lighting and fog settings for the zone, yet, world geometry is largely unchanged. To me, it doesn't appear to reflect the progress that 3 years of 15+ FTE's worth of effort...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yep, they double-downed on some classes getting a third resource pool and in-combat-only resource generation, while other plebeian classes? Not so much. I'm sure that glaring dichotomy will work out... perfectly. :emoji_thinking: On the plus side, Warriors get a new reason to demand MOAR HEALZ...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    While I recognize you weren't asking me, I'm going to answer anyway.. Immediate and persistent "best effort" public access. That's what it would take for me and mine. The project Gorgon model. Yes, it's in development. Yes, it's not done. But what's done? You can play. The devs might wipe...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Welp, looks like another kinda-sorta-AMA or hand-drawn-facsimile of an AMA? Or a challenge to the official forum denizens? :emoji_thinking:
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    On October 2, Brad post two dev diaries. First one. Second one. Today, October 4th, he posted another one. Third one. They're actually quite difficult to read, and all I can say is, that's literal. As in, quite poorly written. It was pointed out on Reddit, but Brad needs an Editor, stat...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Couple of quotes on the subject.. Dec 14, 2017: " We are not yet fully funded" March 18, 2019: " Funding isn't a problem, no. We have a set pace and current funding has allowed us to build the game to this point and can be continued through to launch. ... The cadence at which we are funded...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    And let's not overlook the subtle change in scope of Project Farthall from a 'zone' to an 'encounter'.. whatever the hell that means in their custom dictionary. They've been working on a single 'zone' for over a year now. Since June 2018. And there won't be Alpha until 2021, if there are going...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    From today, on the official forums: Looks like no Alpha in 2019. That should keep the ol' investment capital rolling in.. :rolleyes:
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    You can only rotate the free Unity Store assets so many ways before it starts to look the same. ;)
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    You're gonna just straight up break out LHotP? I dunno man.. doesn't seem right to have it in the same place as Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len.
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Maybe in Terminus, goalposts are like Mimics? "subject to change" means.. they can move? Unlike, you know.. Earth. Where goalposts rarely, if ever, move. :emoji_thinking:
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Sure, here's some interrogation.. In your opinion, what drove the decision to drop the three continents milestones, one with each phase (pre-alpha, alpha, beta)? How many continents, zones per continent, or total zones, is/was the current launch goal? Repeatedly, VR has said they have solutions...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    March 7, 2019 Developer Roundtable Very poor transcription attached, lots of paraphrasing, my snark enclosed in [ ]. (I was unable to post it as plain text, over 20k char limit.. trying attachment..) ____ Don't like my work? Feel free to fix it or do it yourself. :)
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    The silence regarding Farthall since June was deafening to anyone with more than two dendrites, but the fanboys were all listening to Voices of Terminus on Auto-Reverse. :cool:
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    That's the advantage of not having a publisher to answer to, right? :emoji_thumbsup: You can ignore all those pesky milestones, deliverables, targets, and schedules and take as long as you want. :rolleyes:
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Brace yourself: The expectation that there will be huge changes to the art style are naive. I know people don't like to hear that, but it's true. They do not have the time, nor the manpower/money to re-do large portions of the world. They will be extremely fortunate to have the three...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    With the added "feature" of: Any spell with a casting time consumes mana during the cast. [verified by the server and consumed AS you cast] Not consumed after it's confirmed by the server to have been cast on the target. No no, that would be too much like every other MMO. The distinctive...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Regarding " NPC Dispositions widely applied and appropriately unpredictable " , which you referred to, I'm going to say this just so it's been said: Having a flagship-feature perception system and not being able to determine NPC dispositions prior to combat is illogical and/or a missed...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    As Mick said, they can't stop it. Pantheon will have Tracking. (as in Ranger/Druid) As long as that is true, more information than is currently visible by your client for your character is going to be in the memory space of the client, or transferred from the server to client on demand...
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    AMA Pantheon Developers (OFFICIAL)

    Is the current plan that: - all three continents and unique racial starting areas will be ready for launch? - each class will have at least two specializations like the Monk (Body & Soul specs)? - each class will fulfill only one primary role very well, and a secondary role, less well, with...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Agreed. Regarding the world building, from Roenick Last Friday in Discord, saw this while lurking: Question from the channel: As always, interpret as you wish, but the current track seems to be Kingsreach completed during Pre-Alpha, Reignfall completed during Alpha, and the other continent...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    From the unofficial Discord channel (where the VR devs occasionally hang out) today: (Mountain Time / Roenick is a VR dev.) [2:44 PM] Roenick: Ranger and Pally arent in game yet. [2:49 PM] Roenick: The only classes currently in game are the ones you've seen in the streams: Warrior, Cleric...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    For the most part, yes. He's the one making all the core design decisions, and "balance" changes. When the time comes for the sweeping combat changes, proc normalization, nerfing, buffing, core role removal, arbitrary increase in challenge, using server averages for decisions, reducing fun, DPS...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Yeah, I know that attitude is prevalent. No-one wants to be critical when the criticism will potentially make a difference, for whatever reason. When I am complaining about these things, it's with the desperate hope that one of the few uncensored communication mechanisms (these forums) might...