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I don't really think the drama is going to be that significant. Keep in mind both of these guilds launched with the idea of not doing batphones, and then changed their minds. That's because the level of motivation to go foam at the mouth style I think has just died down a lot. Frankly I've seen...

Right but the core issue is not everyone actually plays for plat or krono, hence why a GDKP guild isn't for everyone. Like I personally have 0.0 motivation tied to in game money. Unlike 95% of FoH posters, I am not Mark Zuckerberg (but with a 12" penis) and 3 palaces of Gold in real life, I'm...

I was never involved in FxIV but I honestly assumed GDKP would work fine. I don't really think GDKP is a bad idea, but I do think there's just a lot of players who have 0 interest in it and prefer regular DKP. My perception is that was the core reason for the split, which means in theory it...

Charming was less common for sure, some game changes since then have made charming safer, but the bigger issue I think ties into the thing Kirun was saying as to why people used to do XP groups in Dreadlands. Toleerance for risk was much lower in old EQ, the player base in general was much worse...

Good point--that reminds me, at least on Xegony Chardok was almost never an XP site in era that I remember. I think Chardok got revamped at some point as well and before that it wasn't a great zone. People used to go in there for specific reasons, and usually if they wiped getting back in was a...

Velious is kind of when I feel I hit my EQ stride in the old era, I was too ignorant of what MMOs were and too lackadaisical towards the game to get much into classic. I basically hit 50 on my Necro in Classic solely because my uncle and cousin that got me into the game were good about helping...

Level 70 expansions are mostly bad, DoDH is the one stand out, but even it is rough for casters and priests. Casters because the shitty level 70 raid tier where mobs need to be super debuffed just to land basic DPS spells in raids, and Priests because DoDH has a lot of group content you have to...

I also noticed that the older TLPs (which at this point I'm meaning RF/LJ, Phinny and Agnarr--Fippy actually launched before the Krono era) basically any item you can name sold for more krono in those eras than they did on subsequent TLPs. An econ 101 argument would suggest if prices have...

There's different ranks of Kronolord right, just like in the nobility. You have your Krono Barons who just farm casual group shit for krono. You have your Krono Earls who farm raid targets with a small KronoKrew. And then you have your Krono Dukes who have their own MQ2 compiles, automate plat...

Gear absolutely doesn't matter at all for ages on a TLP. At the same time, I think it does matter, just for reasons unrelated to "beating content." There's different schools of TLPer. Some want to beat content, and for them, gear really is kinda w/e. But a lot of people on TLPs are there for...

Not to out Foaming (but I am), me and him speculated years ago that if they ever did a free trade server, a GDKP/plat guild would be the way to go for various reasons. It made a lot of sense on paper. I wasn't involved in FxIV (have been casual on the server, just hit 60 the day before Kunark)...

Yes the Urn is more common. Drusella's random table is shared with all the Chardok royals and several epic 1.0 raid mobs (dragon Zordak, Ixiblat, the 5-6 Dark Elf guys in Kithicor forest.) So instead of being locked to a single mob who you could either kill 1x a week in DZ or I think 2ish times...

I don't think it's so much that there's rumors, but you've always been able to have a single ring that a group of people pass around to make multiple SWCs. Now that SWC itself is tradeable, well it's obvious the possibilities.

Keep in mind I'm pretty far removed from the "MQ2" dev community, I read the Redguides forums and Discord. It seems like a lot of the non-Mule dev community now views claims Mule made about his meeting and "deal" with Daybreak with a great degree of skepticism because it was discovered his MQ2IC...

I haven't followed Aradune lately but there's little reason for most top guilds to be farming OW shit after a couple months in PoP. The last two guilds I've taken through PoP the value of the Ele God loot drops really fast due to just the sheer amount of loot that falls out of PoTime, and while...

Stick (a command in MQ2MoveUtils) is kind of old school at this point. I think most serious Macroquest users use MQ2Nav or MQ2AdvPath for moving boxes around instead, both are generally better. There's some niche scenarios where stick is still more useful though.

That doesn't affect anything I said.

Most of the people (including in this very thread) who are complaining are infamous RMTers, e.g. Elderan who has been automating SG on multiple servers for years. I do think this ruleset probably undermines the sort of economy those guys thrive on, although as valuable as plat will be their...

I just hope Zaide is aware we'll be doing drug testing of every member of his static once they hit 50. No Lance Armstrongs here, if any of those degenerates took cocaine or meth the people will know about it.

It's actually a really big upgrade in many ways. For one the current paradigm with MQ2, using any of the "Macro Language" macros, you can only run one concurrently. Incredibly complicated stuff like KissAssist.mac can be run and do a lot in that paradigm, but it limits you in many ways. Lots of...

I've also been told a lot of the plugin authors of really popular MQ2 plugins are privately distributing Next compliant .DLL if you private message them and provide proof that you're paying for an active license of it (these are all the plugins on Redguides that aren't free), my understanding is...

Actually I'm pretty sure almost all the TLOs work and most of the major "core" plugins like eqbcs work as well, they just aren't part of the github repo for MQNext so you have to set them up yourself. When you install a Redguides VV build all of that is done for you--and eventually Next is going...

Oh and a fun little bit of drama--the MQ2IC plugin Mule has required all of his customers to run for the past 5 years, for awhile it was actually logging information like character name, account name etc of everyone who used it and was sending in game mails to GMs with that information. A lot of...

MQ2 use is a lot more common and non-controversial outside of truebox TLPs, albeit there are still people that hate that it exists. I'm not sure how many people care at all about the MQ2 inside baseball, but MQ2 has not actually been that easy to use on a Truebox server. It's been somewhat...

I mean it already works right now. It implements most plugins that Redguides VV ships with already, and most plugin authors are converting over as we speak. The base scripting stuff all works out of the box too.

One issue with EQ tryharding is there's often no real benefit to doing it. Especially in the context of a guild. I last raided in WoW during Legion up through the 3rd content patch, and even beating the raids on Heroic (the 2nd Tier difficulty) meant that most everyone in the raid needed to be...

The big thing Pantheon is going for as far as I can tell is literally the 1999 EQ standard--in which raids are just not a significant part of the game, and where "leveling" is the primary game play loop. That's why they're going to produce a hyper-tedious game to level up in that most people...

I mean I think anyone who has ever done a TLP launch has experienced this. I don't really know that there's ever been a "decayed" MMO that has ever approached its original glory. WoW with all its financial power has never come close to its 12m subscriber peak in like 2012 or whenever it was, and...

That's probably appealing to people who don't care to get to live (which is 99% of TLPers); for the few of us who stayed on Selo we'd have hated 8 week unlocks because it would make the entire time to live four years instead of 2.

Yeah there was more egregious cheating on early Selo than you've probably had since Fippy/Vulak. Some of it even not related to the faceless/amtrak drama direclty. Like you had Ricky/Toxn running some shit that let him spam an invis cast something like 50,000 / second which he used to lag out...

I like this Skuz guy's bold claim in the same thread

The feeling when FoH's yerm is called out by a dev for bullying:

I dunno that long down times are a problem per se; back when I was playing WeebFest (aka FFXIV), their major content patches which only come out a couple times a year routinely had advertised 24 hour down times. But Square pretty much always hit those down times, and sometimes brought servers up...

None of Selo's TLP rules are being dropped. So we won't lose Truebox or lose the +50% exp bonus, double rares, and half lockouts until the server merge with Povar. Which incidentally I suspect is because turning these things off isn't as simple as just flipping a flag (even though one of the...

Phinny guilds are probably better suited to live than FC just because Phinny is a much slower server where I think a lot of things are more "live like" already. The big factors that make live guilds competitive are: Ability to maintain a roster during extremely long "down times" after...

I think the thing a lot of people didn't understand is one of our major goals was to not have a "tattler culture" develop in the guild. It was much more important that we had a stable roster and that means no guild drama. In every guild I've been in, the people who run through logs and find out...

There was no vote fwiw, I didn't run the Selo guild as a democracy, no one was ever kicked from the guild unless I said they were kicked. Silinius did briefly kick Lumi in PoP but that was a spur of the moment thing and hadn't been discussed. I honestly do not remember us ever even having a...

We've heard stories about former Selo Faceless members causing drama on Aradune by bragging about "oh we killed x, y, z with no gear and did this and that" and we'll look into a little bit and it ends up being someone who was such a non-entity on Selo that I had to search the DKP site to...

On Agnarr we had like 70 people we were doing PoP progression with, we had a druid that had just finished his recruit status in Luclin who wasn't around until we got into EarthB, asked if he could come in as a piggy. We let him come in. Our first Rathe Councilman we brought in to mez, he...