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    Death of a Game - Everquest franchise

    I don't actually agree with the narrative about boxing and grouping. I do think if you want your MMO to be group oriented, you have to basically force players to group. But having lived through the last 18 years of EQ off and on and seen the developments in it and other MMOs, I think boxing was...
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    Death of a Game - Everquest franchise

    Kind of a false dichotomy Muligan, the current staff on EQ are people who basically were hired and trained/learned how to keep the game running in its current state. They don't have any employees around who would be able to tackle an entire graphical overhaul of the game. So the new expansions...
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    Death of a Game - Everquest franchise

    Right but you want it because you're wrong and don't actually understand anything. Also like there should be some sort of general rule about MMO discussions, anyone who played on EQ1 PVP servers should be disregarded as they basically represent a type of mental illness that has no real...
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    Death of a Game - Everquest franchise

    Such a common narrative especially in the Pantheon fan crowd, and I frankly could not disagree more. I sunk a ton of time into EQ from 1999-2004, then I went to WoW. I never once missed the hardcore "forced interdependence" of EQ, and my vanilla EQ server had arguably more community than my EQ...
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    Everquest - Coirnav Progression Server

    Having done all of Agnarr in retrospect I think Luclin was probably my favorite expansion of the "clasic era" of EQ. I had a lot of nostalgia for Velious, but actually raiding it for 3 months I came to not really like it, lot of very long and annoying raids, frequently combined with abject...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Weird, I have a lot of nostalgia for Vanilla WoW precisely because it wasn't spoon fed and you didn't necessarily just go hub to hub like you do in modern WoW. You could, but there were tons of side paths in vanilla for both Alliance and Horde that many people never did. There were tons of side...
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    Death of a Game - Everquest franchise

    I've heard over the years the leadership at SOE was pretty realistic about it, they knew MMOs had more potential but felt EQ's IP and mechanics were limited in appeal. They hoped that Star Wars Galaxies, with a tie-in to a major and very popular IP, was the ticket to taking stuff to the real...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    I didn't go straight from EQ-->WoW either, I quit playing EQ in late PoP basically because I graduated HS and went to college and found out partying was more fun than MMOs. Then I got an itch to play again and logged into EQ I wan to say early Omens of War era, it was actually before WoW had...
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    Death of a Game - Everquest franchise

    I had quit EQ in late PoP and remember trying EQ2 briefly and it just being deeply unappealing. Then I tried WoW and really liked it, part of what I think actually kind of paved the path to me liking early WoW was I really liked Warcraft 3, it had an early hero system that kind of directly lead...
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    Pretty much universally in EQ I advocate for getting max level ASAP then getting your AAs, at any point in a TLP or on live.
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    Yeah I mean it's obvious that at most you had a couple people who may have been waiting outside, for all intents and purposes you had a full raid, Zurdula had 20 open slots. If you want to keep making yourselves look worse please continue, since it looks like you pathologically can neither stop...
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    It's hilarious how triggered the bad Addictions players are. If they didn't care they'd just shut up and be the scrubs they are, but they keep trying to make up nonsense, compare themselves somehow to the server 1st guild (that beat them by almost 2 full weeks), or Zurdula who beat them because...
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    I mean it's not Truci that doesn't count your Rathe kill as legit, you haven't killed Rathe Council, no one counts it as legit. I do find it interesting you mock our Mith Marr kill, yes--he killed tanks. He's like level 78 and our tanks were level 61, but it was the server first Mith Marr kill.
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    After what was shown on Addictions stream tonight Vedette needs to be in hiding for at least a week, that shit was the most embarrassing shit I've ever seen--and I used to watch <My Pants> raid streams.
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    Addictions has now wiped to Quarm as many times as Faceless has ever engaged him. No clue how anyone wipes on Quarm, our first kill we didn't even discuss strategy or anything, just YOLO'd it with no issues.
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    Wow I saw in our Discord Addictions had a stream up so I tuned in just in time to see a full 72 man raid wipe to Quarm, one with 14 Clerics. I can honestly say I've never seen worse/more embarrassing play in all my time raiding EQ. There's a mini-race going on between Zurdula and Addictions, of...
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    Why would anyone do an OW ring war when it had an AoC.
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    That was us and Zurdula and there was an agreement to do it before hand by both guild leaders; no one petitioned over it or got upset.
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    So as a disinterested third party, like Zaide said it's different because it's a triggered mob and there is precedent, we know from Phinny people ate suspensions for killing the little Shissars that spawn when you kill Emperor if they weren't part of the raid to kill Emperor himself. We know...
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    I'll be interested to see what happens, the guild leader of our sister guild (Faceless Insanity on Lockjaw) actually stopped us from doing this very thing on Sunday when Truci was working on it--he says back when Lockjaw was in PoP (I guess 6ish months ago) they stole an Avatar of Earth from a...
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    So far only one Faceless person was suspended; while the suspension notification was vague it's likely for training.
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    So I will say to any that read here--Faceless is not going to interfere with or attempt Rathe Council again for probably at least a week. We don't have any desire to block the server as a whole from PoTime, we know a lot of people have been raiding simply to get there from day one of the server...
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    The Magician epic pets have never compared well vs PoP pets, even the 61. I actually remember back when PoP came out epic mages were livid that a pet you could get so easily was better than their epic; especially because back in the old days most people didn't even get an epic complete into well...
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    Someone sent me a tell from Coirnav about Mealin during a raid or something, guess because of this thread. No one w/that name is in guild and have no idea who he is. No one in the Agnarr Faceless cares about Coirnav, we lost like 6-7 dudes to that server, almost all of whom were toxic krono...
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    Everquest - Coirnav Progression Server

    I have a suspicion this is largely targeted at Atabishi. I mean you've made a decent name for yourself and weren't you even bragging about all the free xp potions you got during the daybreak store glitch on Coirnav launch? (If that wasn't you my bad.) I suspect they just have a reason to dislike...
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    The Sad, sad, state of MMORPG in this brave new era...

    An EQ Dev awhile back debunked the "thousands of unsolved quests" thing. I think the original comment was a person at SOE/Daybreak who said something out of school, an actual Dev dug into it and basically admitted it was bullshit. What I do think is true is that a huge amount of items were...
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    The Sad, sad, state of MMORPG in this brave new era...

    Spot on with WoW, the only thing that annoys me is how many people who criticize WoW for what it is never played it back before it became the "game on rails" that has come to define much of the genre. The original WoW was full of quests that spanned multiple zones, dungeons etc, many that didn't...
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    Everquest - Coirnav Progression Server

    On Ragefire + Lockjaw the southeast part of the zone had a huge number of the level 11-13 wisps that basically spawned as fast as you could kill them and even dropped greater lightstones with decent regularity. On Agnarr they were gone, so my guess is the pre-Agnarr revamp they did (when they...
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    Everquest - Coirnav Progression Server

    I'd expect Agnarr is starting its slow decline, but I don't think it's strictly related to Coirnav. It's hard to extrapolate out to other guilds, but of our roster of 95 or so total active raiders I think we may have lost around 5 to Coirnav, and all but 2 of them were very low activity on...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    MMOs are usually like Cutting Edge graphics - 3 years if not worse in my experience. For a lot of business reasons if no others it's not shocking, MMOs often have a lot of players in the same place, lot of concurrent spell effects and etc. If your overall engine/graphics are so high consumption...
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    Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

    Bad animations can still fuck a game over, people like their avatars to not look retarded--just see how many of the EQ TLP crowd refuse to play with the Luclin era models. The number one reason I hear for that refusal isn't that the models are bad (they are), but moreso that they have very bad...
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    Everquest - Coirnav Progression Server

    It says a lot to me that most of the people posting in this thread are either 1) not playing on Coirnav, 2) are people who I've seen only play on previous TLPs during classic/early kunark and 3) RMTers/kronolords. Stands in stark contrast to the sort of interest you saw in the early Agnarr...
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    Everquest - Coirnav Progression Server

    Agnarr actually had 40 picks of Unrest open at one point, I don't know what the peak was. I was leveling my alt druid during the first xp weekend (which was just a couple days after Agnarr launch), and was in a basement group, in /pick it actually listed 40 distinct pickzones (I don't mean that...
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    Everquest - Coirnav Progression Server

    The focii would be easy enough to remove entirely but I think the reason they haven't is just because they can't do the work to balance melee (it'd be non-trivial for example to have different monk H2H ratios for TLP vs live) down to their original classic damage range so if they got rid of...
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    What we've used... | EverQuest Forums Hope they get a lot of these issues fixed for Coirnav.
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    Everquest - Coirnav Progression Server

    The big thing to remember about scumbag income is there's nothing wrong with earning it but there's major stuff wrong with bragging about it. I come from a real poor area and had a cousin I didn't know too well but he made a lot of money cooking meth and selling to other white trash people. Lot...
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    Everquest - Coirnav Progression Server

    There's a guy who made around $8m (net profit) running a game on the Michigan and Massachusetts lottery system. tldr a certain type of lottery game had certain points when the $2 lottery tickets were actually mathematically more valuable than the $2 they cost. But to make big money you had to...
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    Everquest - Coirnav Progression Server

    I dunno, from everything I've seen MMO RMTing makes you a cuck. Like I think there's probably money to be made in sucking dick too, doesn't make it a respectable occupation.
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    I remember it being a DT in era so I found that confusing as well. In open world if you pull anything other than TVX out of their set area and they have you in line of sight the boss will DT you it's a no cooldown DT so they'll rapidly DT everyone else on aggro list shortly after if they're in...
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    Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode

    If the warders work as they originally did you basically have to clear all of VT and in a specific order. I think the lvl 60 Thall Xakras and the two Kaas Thox AHR blobs aren’t tied to warders so could be skipped.