2013 NFL Season

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Caliel

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Disp_sl said:
And there's Cowboys fan logic for you. The 49ers have had their top 2 receivers from last year out for the entire season so far, yet they're finding ways to win big. Kaepernick is playing great right now (well I guess only if 9:1 TD:Int in the past 5 games is good), especially considering the WR circumstances.
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Either your math is wrong or you had a typo. Kaepernick is only 6:1 in the past 5 games. 6 TDs in 5 games isn't great.

Oh I just noticed he had 3 rushing TDs so I guess that is how you got your 9. You generally don't included rushing TDs when talking about TDs and Ints. If you do, then you should also include his 2 fumbles that he lost during the 5 games.
 
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Disp_sl

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He's played barely more than a season at this point. I'm sure it'll happen again and he'll go through more slumps as he continues to grow. The expectations after last season and the opening day Green Bay game were far too lofty and I think the coaching staff wanted to go Drew Brees style even with a devastated WR group. Since then they've gone back to a more balanced approach and the offense has been dominant. Once Crabtree and Manningham get back the offense is gonna be brutal.

Caliel_sl said:
Either your math is wrong or you had a typo. Kaepernick is only 6:1 in the past 5 games. 6 TDs in 5 games isn't great. He also lost 2 out of the 3 fumbles he had during those 5 games.
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He has 3 rushing touchdowns in the last 2 games.
 
Burnem Wizfyre

Burnem Wizfyre

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Disp_sl said:
And there's Cowboys fan logic for you. The 49ers have had their top 2 receivers from last year out for the entire season so far, yet they're finding ways to win big. Kaepernick is playing great right now (well I guess only if 9:1 TD:Int in the past 5 games is good), especially considering the WR circumstances.
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Injuries...isn't that what no one gets to blame anything on except for when it happens to their team?
 
Sutekh

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Things don't look good for Philbin. The FO has always been as stubborn as fuck though so I wouldn't be surprised if he stayed, his policy of having the players lead the team really backfired when they got rid of the key intelligent and professional veterans (Long, Bush, Fasano, Bess).

These players are so fucking dumb, why can't they just look and see being locker room cancer is going to ruin your career? For fucks sake people didn't want to bring RANDY MOSS to their team because of how he supposedly acted in the locker room, what makes you think your dumbass would be any different as a lineman?

Incognito's career is probably over after this.
 
Sterling

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Dolphins organization is such a shitshow. Just terrible. It's really hard being a fan sometimes. Miss the Wayne Huizenga days!
 
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Disp_sl

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BurnemWizfyre_sl said:
Injuries...isn't that what no one gets to blame anything on except for when it happens to their team?
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Well I guess it comes down to just about any unbiased fan with a brain could tell you that Ryan and Brady have struggled this season primarily because of injuries to their receiving core. Or are they just shit qb's too?
 
Gravy

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Sutekh_sl said:
Incognito's career is probably over after this.
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I was going to say: And zero fucks were given that day.

But I think this sucks so bad for the good team members of the Dolphins, their fans, and football in general. So I do give a fuck, and it's aimed up Incognito's ass.
 
Burnem Wizfyre

Burnem Wizfyre

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Brady/Ryan/Rodgers have had their WR/TE corps fucking decimated and still manage to have better stats than those two bus drivers. The WR's and TE's they have lost are actually good players, you are crying about losing fucking Michael Crabtree and Mario Manningham. Think about that for a second, Mario Manningham and Michael Crabtree.

Michael Crabtree Stats - San Francisco 49ers - ESPN
Mario Manningham Stats - San Francisco 49ers - ESPN

Their best/breakout seasons are mediocre, Brady/Rodgers/Ryan lost real weapons and are still better than both of the 49ers current and former bus drivers.
 
Alex

Alex

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BurnemWizfyre_sl said:
Brady/Ryan/Rodgers have had their WR/TE corps fucking decimated and still manage to have better stats than those two bus drivers. The WR's and TE's they have lost are actually good players, you are crying about losing fucking Michael Crabtree and Mario Manningham. Think about that for a second, Mario Manningham and Michael Crabtree.

Michael Crabtree Stats - San Francisco 49ers - ESPN
Mario Manningham Stats - San Francisco 49ers - ESPN

Their best/breakout seasons are mediocre, Brady/Rodgers/Ryan lost real weapons and are still better than both of the 49ers current and former bus drivers.
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I'll agree with you on Manningham, but Crabtree? He's actually good. You can throw the stats around that he never put up good numbers until last year, but most of that was in the Alex Smith days who doesn't take advantage of receivers of his caliber. Just look at the numbers Dwayne Bowe is putting up this year.

To further solidify my point, Crabtree is a perfect before-and-after use case for Kaepernick. Smith went out at the halfway point. First 8.5 games were played with Smith, the final 7.5 were played with Kaepernick.

In 2012 with Smith: 39 receptions on 55 targets for 440 yards and three TDs.

In 2012 with Kaepernick: 46 receptions on 71 targets for 665 yards and six TDs.

Significant difference.
 
Burnem Wizfyre

Burnem Wizfyre

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Kaep is better than Smith, but neither are anything to get excited about. Crabtree's break out is less than spectacular, the jury is still out on him because you don't know those 2012 numbers were his ceiling (which means unless he plays his best he isn't putting up those numbers again) or not, cut off those numbers by a bit and he is not good at all. You aren't going to see a leap with those WR's that will suddenly make Kaepernick a top 10 QB.
 
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Disp_sl

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Burnem, your problem is you look at stats in a vacuum, which makes sense since Romo is really the perfect QB for that sort of valuation. He puts up huge passing yards and td's, yet doesn't have shit to show for it. Crabtree had 878 yards in 10 Kaepernick starts last year, which projects to over 1,400 receiving yards. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's more than Dez Bryant has ever had in a season.

But by all means, continue your ignorance.
 
Burnem Wizfyre

Burnem Wizfyre

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Disp_sl said:
Burnem, your problem is you look at stats in a vacuum, which makes sense since Romo is really the perfect QB for that sort of valuation. He puts up huge passing yards and td's, yet doesn't have shit to show for it. Crabtree had 878 yards in 10 Kaepernick starts last year, which projects to over 1,400 receiving yards. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's more than Dez Bryant has ever had in a season.

But by all means, continue your ignorance.
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12 more yards than Dez has had, and Crabtree shouldn't ever be mentioned in comparison to Dez, continue on with your ignorance.
 
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Disp_sl

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So Crabtree was more productive with basically a rookie quarterback who came in during the second half of the season than Dez has been in his 4 year career with the future 1'st ballot HoF'er Tony Romo. But Crabtree is just a scrub receiver and Bryant is on Calvin Johnson's level. Gotcha.

You don't have to like Kaepernick or the Niners, but you're going straight Manowarr here.
 
Ambiturner

Ambiturner

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Disp_sl said:
Burnem, your problem is you look at stats in a vacuum, which makes sense since Romo is really the perfect QB for that sort of valuation. He puts up huge passing yards and td's, yet doesn't have shit to show for it. Crabtree had 878 yards in 10 Kaepernick starts last year, which projects to over 1,400 receiving yards. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's more than Dez Bryant has ever had in a season.

But by all means, continue your ignorance.
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Because rating a qb based on his team's defense is stupid? That's what your saying with stupidity like "Yeah he puts up more yards, td, less int, and higher comp % but doesn't have anything to show for it lol!"

If you know a way for a qb to make his team win more games that isn't tied to a statistic then I'd love to hear it
 
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