2022 NFL Offseason Thread: Looking forward Tua better future!

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Wombat said:
Do we know the specifics of Watson's accusations? Is it just propositioning for handjobs full body massages with no forced contact?
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The stories from some of the women are out there. Some of them are pretty gross. If I was one of those women I would have given him a good punch in the balls for sure.

This doesn't make sense to me in the same way that billionaires who spend all day trying to get more money and avoid paying taxes don't make sense to me. There's no way Deshaun Watson can't get plenty of sex, probably from better looking women than these masseuses, whenever he wants, but he's still trying to stick it in random women just because they're there, and risking his whole career in the process.
 
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Wombat said:
Do we know the specifics of Watson's accusations? Is it just propositioning for handjobs full body massages with no forced contact?
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If you go look up the complaints, they detail some of it in there. I believe there is one that accuses him of jacking off and cumming on her, another of him trying to force her hand onto his cock, etc.

I think Watson is probably an entitled prick who went in thinking all these women would want to hook up with him, and he probably always had his way with women. So he was too stupid to understand that not all women in fact wanted that. I also believe many of these women that piled on after the fact, were probably totally fine with what happened and were hoping to get something out of it.
 
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Ameraves said:
If you go look up the complaints, they detail some of it in there. I believe there is one that accuses him of jacking off and cumming on her, another of him trying to force her hand onto his cock, etc.

I think Watson is probably an entitled prick who went in thinking all these women would want to hook up with him, and he probably always had his way with women. So he was too stupid to understand that not all women in fact wanted that. I also believe many of these women that piled on after the fact, were probably totally fine with what happened and were hoping to get something out of it.
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He's a skeezy, sex addicted, 75 iq jogger raised with no father and despite being an NFL star was too cheap to shell out for higher class escorts who know how to keep their mouth shut, instead electing to go with masseuses who are the Costco of the prostitution world.
 
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Brahma said:
Woah!

www.espn.com

Fins lose 1st-rounder for Brady, Payton tampering

The NFL has stripped the Miami Dolphins of two draft picks, including their 2023 first-round selection, and suspended owner Stephen Ross and fined him $1.5 million as a result of its investigation of allegations levied by former coach Brian Flores.
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In other words Flores was a lying piece of shit but it gave them an excuse to go digging for other dirt.
 
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Haha! What a dumpster fire in Miami. Not even Belichick would have the arrogance to try something like that.
 
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Gavinmad said:
In other words Flores was a lying piece of shit but it gave them an excuse to go digging for other dirt.
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"made a number of comments to everyone in the front office that the team's draft position should take precedence over team's win/loss record"..."One such comment is a claimed offer by Mr Ross to pay Coach Flores $100,000 to lose game, as to which there are different recollections about the wording, timing, and context. However phrased, such a comment was not intended or taken to be a serious offer..."

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"made a number of comments to everyone in the front office that the team's draft position should take precedence over team's win/loss record"..."One such comment is a claimed offer by Mr Ross to pay Coach Flores $100,000 to lose game, as to which there are different recollections about the wording, timing, and context. However phrased, such a comment was not intended or taken to be a serious offer..."

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Yeah everybody knows tanking happens. So this is either a common thing throughout the league and Flores is a shitbag trying to play martyr, or he created a scandal off a comment he knew was a joke which still makes him a dishonest shitbag.
 
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Gavinmad said:
Yeah everybody knows tanking happens. So this is either a common thing throughout the league and Flores is a shitbag trying to play martyr, or he created a scandal off a comment he knew was a joke which still makes him a dishonest shitbag.
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Probably a mixture of both. Some coaches dont believe in doing a complete tanking rebuild because it doesnt always work. Look at how bad Cleveland, Jacksonville and NYJ have been even with all those high picks. And Flores came from NE where culture is more important. We also know the Dolphins are owned by a moron. So that makes me believe Flores more.
 
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Probably a mixture of both. Some coaches dont believe in doing a complete tanking rebuild because it doesnt always work. Look at how bad Cleveland, Jacksonville and NYJ have been even with all those high picks. And Flores came from NE where culture is more important. We also know the Dolphins are owned by a moron. So that makes me believe Flores more.
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I prefer option C. The Dolphins are owned by a complete moron AND Flores is a lying sack of shit.
 
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Wait. You guys really thought they would find any evidence as far as ANY team tanking? EVER? That's why I was like STFU and look for your next job man. You're a good coach that ate one. Teams will want that.
 
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Miami still has the 49er's 1st round pick. Tua could work out, Lance could suck, and Miami will trade that pick back for a king's ransom from some other team that needs to draft a qb next year!!!111one (I'm coping! I'm coping!)

I just find it interesting that Miami is getting punished for everything that makes them look bad, but anything they did that makes the league as a whole look bad wasn't actionable (Ross did offer Flores 100k to lose games but did it "as a joke")

As a dolphins fan I'm cool with this as long as this is the standard. If Snyder gets to coast I might get as pissed off as Washington fans.
 
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Gavinmad said:
Yeah everybody knows tanking happens. So this is either a common thing throughout the league and Flores is a shitbag trying to play martyr, or he created a scandal off a comment he knew was a joke which still makes him a dishonest shitbag.
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Everybody knows, so knowing it shouldn't be that big of a logic leap. If they're willing to risk tampering rules to talk to Brady/Payton, I doubt they care much about potentially discussing/rewarding tanking openly within the organization, either.
 
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That time frame when Miami was speaking with Brady lines up perfectly when he wanted his new contract. Think it was 50 million 2 years all guaranteed? They offered him some incentives and a cookie. Brady went way off the Patriots reservation and said fuck you to Bill.
 
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Animosity said:
Probably a mixture of both. Some coaches dont believe in doing a complete tanking rebuild because it doesnt always work. Look at how bad Cleveland, Jacksonville and NYJ have been even with all those high picks. And Flores came from NE where culture is more important. We also know the Dolphins are owned by a moron. So that makes me believe Flores more.
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Obviously it doesn't "always work" nothing "always works" in the NFL.

It's hard to argue that having better draft position isn't a positive, though
 
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