PP needs to wipe the slate clean and start with a new edition. Their rulings have gotten bloated. Their conscious decision to keep so many rulings out of the FAQ is stupid and creates an extremely large barrier of entry. I see new players lose games all the time because they had no idea about a particular ruling.
28mm Miniature Tabletop Wargaming Thread
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Phazael
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Looks more and more like the US Fantasy scene is mostly jumping to Kings of War. There are pockets of AoS fanbois, but no one can agree on how to fix (read: write the actual rules for GW) the game, so it has yet to see one event scheduled for it. Masters circuit completes in Vegas with 8th next January, so after that who knows?
Also, me drunk off my ass at QCR last week with my ork boat army. I was Shiny and Chrome.
I was also so drunk that I cannot even recall that game, despite somehow getting a draw and bonus points....
Also, me drunk off my ass at QCR last week with my ork boat army. I was Shiny and Chrome.
I was also so drunk that I cannot even recall that game, despite somehow getting a draw and bonus points....
Khalan
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Yeah we have 2 Masters tournaments left in our region, and I think ill head to LV for the masters this year, depending on what happens by then. 5 months is a long time and all the 8th ed/9thage stuff is just too scattered, there are like 10 8.5ed out there and like 20 AoS Comp systems, both will need a good year to settle down and normalize. Im not gonna touch that shit.
Palum
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Yes but part of the allure of things like MTG, WH, etc is collecting and building that game component within the framework of game rules that everyone knows and are "official". It's having 'the best' or 'the coolest'. If you think to the effect of proxies, from a strict game standpoint who cares? But the reality is all 'collectible' games like that are fun partly because other people don't have all things. When you shatter/splinter the rules and community, all that planning/money/work becomes meaningless pretty quickly. It'd be like if the NFL dissolved and basically the teams just kind of managed their own rules and invited other teams over sometimes, maybe you have a tournament occasionally but who cares anymore at that point?
Phazael
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There is a hard push from part of the community to use an active rules set. Most of these people did not experience the 4th Ed D&D debacle or GW's attempts to kill Bloodbowl, so they think its impossible to continue with an old rules edition. While 8th would ordinarily be completely stagnant, there is a unified WHF tournament scene in the US that could do small yearly changes to keep things fresh that would be trusted well enough by most. There are some hard core fanbois who want to bury it and make everyone jump to Age of Shitmar, however, that are forcing the issue. I personally am burnt out on skirmish games (and the community for them is full of asshats), so anything I continue with has to be regimented. Our local league is continuing with 8th for now, but most of the SoCal scene are leaning towards Kings of War. The south, especially Texas, looks like its migrating en masse towards KoW as well. So far the pro AoS camp has not been able to even remotely come up with something workable that doesn't completely rewrite the entire rules (which leads to more infighting) and there has yet to be a single AoS event announced, at least within the Masters community. Several Kings of War events have gone up, though, and most events on the calendar are continuing to use 8th until the Masters in February at the Las Vegas Open.
Of course Reese Robins, who runs the open that is hosting the Masters Finals, decided to put his event the same weekend as the Superbowl..... yeah that's going to go great.....
Of course Reese Robins, who runs the open that is hosting the Masters Finals, decided to put his event the same weekend as the Superbowl..... yeah that's going to go great.....
Jx3
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Not mine, belongs to the guy who was running the demo at Origins. Lays it out pretty nice. No doom and gloom or GW bashing, just straight up info
Going from WFB 8th to KoW 2nd
Going from WFB 8th to KoW 2nd
Palum
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4th was only ok, just different type of game so a lot of people stuck with 3.5 or went to Pathfinder.
It's not 28mm but a bunch of the locals who fled Age of Sigmar picked up Dropzone Commander. I picked up a starter, a couple resin models and the book at NOVA from the Hawk Wargames guys. The models are amazing. The flash is non-existent. The joint design is amazing. The cuts are where you would expect them to be and not in super retarded spaces (I'm looking at you Orin Midwinter and eKaya). The Hawk guy who was at NOVA was super friendly and gave me a pretty substantial discount.
The game plays fairly closely to the old GW space games. I'm having fun with it so far.
The game plays fairly closely to the old GW space games. I'm having fun with it so far.
Sludig
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A co worker who most people avoided was touting drop zone. Had some unpainted basic figured, was unimpressed at time as even though I don't play. 40k still near and dear. Looked it more than that other wierd Asian sci Fi one with swayed from many different factions that are rip offs of various sci Fi and anime. Rt googled drop zone and this time around some of the factions look kind of neat. I think when I first looked it was like just coming out.
How's the game play though. Anyone with these in Colorado?
How's the game play though. Anyone with these in Colorado?
I've only played the "battle box" level but the game is fun. It plays a lot like a GW game in mechanics for hit and damage. The game is extremely scenario based. They have been working hard on balancing which is a good sign to me. I'm not sure how uber competitive it is (there were only like 8 guys in the tournament at NOVA) but for me I have Warmachine to be super competitive at and that game does well in that realm.
Erronius
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Pics!
I've had a hard time understanding when people have tried talking about it. I thought it was a ground-based game?
Sounds like Infinity. I like some of their models but after a while it just seems to all look the same to me.
At least it isn't Kingdom Death though! (strange/hilarious high-quality NSFW models)