38 studios Auction Nov 14th and 15th.
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Jimbolini
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Pew is a non partisan polling organization and has nothing to do with the Economist.
Pew Research Center | Nonpartisan, non-advocacy public opinion polling and demographic research
The graph you linked cited them as the source, I assumed you had that as well.
No problem, I will do deeper digging.
Pew Research Center | Nonpartisan, non-advocacy public opinion polling and demographic research
The graph you linked cited them as the source, I assumed you had that as well.
No problem, I will do deeper digging.
Ambiturner
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Tell you what. Give me your definition of what constitutes "Islamic extremism" and I'll provide you with a citation that shows you're a dumbfuck for thinking less than 5% of Muslims are extremists. Quaid's already done it with his link but there are numerous other sources out there with similar data.
BTW here is one Pew report:http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/0...ull-report.pdf
From the executive summary, 8% of Muslims in the US feel violence is justified to defend Islam.
Quaid
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Can we see your sources? Or do you just feel like only suicide bombers have extreme beliefs in the Muslim population? You feel like it MUST be less than 10%...right?
Lunis
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A really good book on this topic is Radical by Maajid Nawaz. He is a former muslim extremist who goes into detail how he came to be radicalized and how he got out of it. He also debunks the myth that only an extremely small percentage of muslims support Islamic theocracies and Jihad, there's a very large number of right-wing muslims who don't carry out violence but have very similar views to the extremists.
Radical: My Journey Out Of Islamist Extremism: Maajid Nawaz, Tom Bromley: 9780762791361: Amazon.com: Books
Radical: My Journey Out Of Islamist Extremism: Maajid Nawaz, Tom Bromley: 9780762791361: Amazon.com: Books
Palum
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I'd honestly say that the number of radical Muslims is proportional with the number of radical Christians. You don't see atheists bombing abortion clinics or shooting up black churches, do you?
Palum
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Even if that is true, the key difference is that most religions espouse peace, using it as a necessary tool to quell the populace in ages gone by. Islam, however, is defined by convert-or-die.
zzeris
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While rich and powerful, I don't see the Vatican widely murdering or disfiguring non-christians. To make a better point, I don't hear of thousands of Christians declaring a holy war in the ME over what ISIS has done. They also haven't went over there to fight Muslims either. On the other side...
ISIS has 30,000 foreign fighters from more than 100 countries - Iraqi News
I think you don't really understand what proportional means. In fact, I know it.
Ambiturner
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Is that your standard? You don't think 8% of actual Christians feel like violence is sometimes justified in defending Christianity? I'm actually surprised it's only 8%.
I honestly think islam is a lot crazier and more of a threat than any other religions out there, but your idea that there's 150 million who are a threat to your life is fucking stupid
Gavinmad
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Dunno how I missed this derail.
Anyway, I think violence is justified in defending all sorts of things and I'm not part of any religion. Believing that violence can be justified is not unreasonable. The actual question from the survey is whether you support suicide bombing or other forms of violence against civilians in the name of Islam, and those 8% are Muslims living in the US. In Muslim countries, the examples the summary gives range from 26% to 40%. I have no doubt that you could find Christians who believed violence against civilians was often or sometimes justified in defense of Christianity, but you'd have to do some very selective surveying to get 8%.
To me, that statistic is a damning indictment of Islam. I believe it to be a moral absolute that there can never be a justification for targeting civilians with violence. If your beliefs can't be defended without targeting civilians with violence, then you and your way of life deserve to die. Islam is a rabid dog, and if it can't be brought to heel like Christianity was, it needs to be put down.
Anyway, I think violence is justified in defending all sorts of things and I'm not part of any religion. Believing that violence can be justified is not unreasonable. The actual question from the survey is whether you support suicide bombing or other forms of violence against civilians in the name of Islam, and those 8% are Muslims living in the US. In Muslim countries, the examples the summary gives range from 26% to 40%. I have no doubt that you could find Christians who believed violence against civilians was often or sometimes justified in defense of Christianity, but you'd have to do some very selective surveying to get 8%.
To me, that statistic is a damning indictment of Islam. I believe it to be a moral absolute that there can never be a justification for targeting civilians with violence. If your beliefs can't be defended without targeting civilians with violence, then you and your way of life deserve to die. Islam is a rabid dog, and if it can't be brought to heel like Christianity was, it needs to be put down.
Maybe Christianity has already gotten it out of it's system? I feel like they've gone a crusade of some kind in the past. I just can't put my finger on it.
You were the one who called anyone a retard if they believed that 5-10% of Muslims were extremists. I just proved who the real retard is.
FYI a 30 second Google search was all you needed to do to figure out you were wrong.
A majority of them also believe execution is warranted for apostacy . Some people here obviously have problems admitting Schilling, Maher and everyone else with one functional brain cell are correct about Islamic extremists.
Ambiturner
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If you're going to cast a wide net on what you find to be "extremist", then there's no way you can say only 7% of Germans were Nazis and call that a fair comparison.
Gavinmad
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I don't disagree, the 7% number is very disingenuous. Germans (and Poles) of that time period were very anti-Semitic. Even if your average citizen didn't know about the concentration camps, they damn sure knew about ghettos. They knew Jews were being treated like animals or worse, and they just didn't care.
