AI Image Generation
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Guest, did you like the last podcast notification?? Well here's the second one, and for the third podcast! Yep. This Thursday 8-8-24 at 7pm Central
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Aaron
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My FB feed has become filled with shit like this - although granted it all comes from pages FB is suggesting I follow, not ones I actually follow (yet). This is a military one, but you see shit from all sorts, lots of pics of "cutaways" of planes like the B1 Lancer, Female pilots (with too many fingers), houses that look off when you look too cloesly, you name it. What gets me though is when you click on the fucking comments. Half are "wow, that's awesome" while the other half either figure something is not quite right but can't put their finger on it, or think it's real but some new means to do something that is being showcased. And all these people vote... God we are heading for a fucked up future... I'd say I'm looking forward to moving into a cabin in the woods, but I've seen too many FB images of impossible cabins in the woods to think I'd be safe there lol!
Aaron
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Also... I actually wonder if it may not be the fact that many of these pages are semi-AI constructs themselves, created by a bot, images created by AI and uploaded, all to trick people into liking that page in order for some... schenanegans by the human owner? I don't know how you make money off of FB but maybe this is all some giant cooky scam.
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Weird shit in ai images doesn't bug me when it's posted here, or in similar environments. I think the imperfection is fine when the entire conversion is about AI image generation anyways.
It drives me fucking crazy when I see people using obviously stupid AI images for marketing on LinkedIn though. It's like making a marketing post in all caps. The entire message you're trying to convey is lost and your audience just gets distracted with wondering how stupid you are. All the ones I see are drone related, obviously. The person making the post AND everyone they're trying to reach can tell how stupid the picture is after half a second of looking at it.
It's like the early days of Photoshop
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Kolohe
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I keep arguing this point with my GF, who is a graphic designer. I keep telling her that creative types are the only ones that we just accept get royalties in perpetuity for their work and that it's bullshit.
Do structural engineers get $0.01 for every car that drives over a bridge they designed? Do the construction workers get royalties? Do doctors get $0.01 for every day a patient lives after a life saving surgery? Do they get royalties when they develop a new surgical technique that ends up being used in every hospital? Do septic companies get a bonus for every drain field that lasts beyond its expected lifespan? Do cops get anything at all, let alone anything approaching financial compensation in perpetuity for good work?
No, none of that. But actors keep getting checks 20 years after being on some sitcom and musicians get a check every time their song is played on Spotify or in a Ford commercial.
Her reasoning is always that the people I mention have retirements and 401ks and I always tell her that we pay into that for years and artists have those options too.
We've completely forgotten that the natural state of information is public domain, and copyright is a specific exception carved out to encourage artistic creation. What's bullshit is that the term of copyright was lobbied by Disney up to an insane "life plus 70" when it started at 14 years.
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Astronomers can spot fake AI photos using tools meant to measure galaxies
Astronomers have discovered a very cheeky way to detect fake AI images and videos using galaxy-measuring techniques.
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And then then the parameters for detection are analyzed, and the image creator is coded with constraints to avoid them
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If you were born in say 2016-17 as a 7-8 would you know which one is AI generated
I didn’t even know streets of fire existed, they both have that same movie production aesthetic, even if one is built to emulate a specific era whereas the other is genuinely a product of its time. They are both effectively artificial, one is a movie set, the other is a digital composition —but does either look truly “faker” than the other…its the lighting, in both of them, that makes it look “fake”, but fake like filmed under special lighting, or totally a digital medium with no real world proxy fake
I didn’t even know streets of fire existed, they both have that same movie production aesthetic, even if one is built to emulate a specific era whereas the other is genuinely a product of its time. They are both effectively artificial, one is a movie set, the other is a digital composition —but does either look truly “faker” than the other…its the lighting, in both of them, that makes it look “fake”, but fake like filmed under special lighting, or totally a digital medium with no real world proxy fake
The AI artifacts in the first one are pretty obvious. Subtly warping geometry, limited movement, etc. It's remarkably good, though, and I expect in the next few months/years we wont' be able to tell any more.
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Daidraco
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I for one am pretty excited at the idea that an individual person could make an entire movie within the next 10 years, all by themselves, and the production value look AAA. We have people that are dedicated, and have fantastic film knowledge in their heads of where to put the camera and how the lighting should look, etc, in just something like Astartes.
So imagine if you will, what an equally or greater, creative person will bring to the table with a full suite of AI tools at their disposal?
The question then becomes.. will the AI that can do this continue to be free for all to use? Or will there be a barrier to entry? Or will it be more of a Warcraft > MOBA type of thing where they've added specific clauses for any use of the AI that deems a profit, should share the profit in a 90/10 split (exaggeration, but not by much Im sure.)
Control
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I would say it's possible now without ai, considering what the current batch of 3d tools are capable of. Although admittedly, it would take a lot of time. I think the bigger issue with a single person doing it is their own attention/focus. I think people tend to get skilled at something to the exclusion of other things, so someone that is truly excellent at something has gotten there by pouring all of their effort and focus into that one thing (possibly with some very rare exceptions). Not only would the really excellent at x people be (relatively) crap at everything else, they likely wouldn't even want to do those things because they know they're relatively crap at them and they take time and effort away from their specialty. I guess ai will eventually just let people just get good at directing 100% ai assets though?
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I think it'll be hard for most people to make a cohesive story that's 2+ hours.
Personally, I have a lot of ideas for music videos that I'd like to make with AI. I think that type of thing is going to be very feasible, very soon.
Control
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That should really be the easiest part. There are a lot more people capable of writing a screenplay/novel than people who can do any of the other parts of a feature-length movie solo.
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Kharzette
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I've got that semi running. I found this link after I was 99% of the way there, it is pretty good: AI Generated Videos with Stable Video Diffusion and Vultr Cloud GPU | Vultr Docs
The main gotcha is when you see a missing imwatermark and can't find it in the usual conda places. If you goog it you find a git for imWatermark. Turns out that's not even what it wants. Someone did a bad cuntpaste job and renamed imWatermark to imwatermark and their module is hidden-watermark or something.
It's been downloading stuff forever on my potato net connexion. Hopefully I've got enough gpu mem.
The main gotcha is when you see a missing imwatermark and can't find it in the usual conda places. If you goog it you find a git for imWatermark. Turns out that's not even what it wants. Someone did a bad cuntpaste job and renamed imWatermark to imwatermark and their module is hidden-watermark or something.
It's been downloading stuff forever on my potato net connexion. Hopefully I've got enough gpu mem.
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