Shonuff
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Just put your earbuds in and walk away. I never talk to anyone until the workout is over.
Arkk's Weight Lifting / Fitness Thread
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How long did they say recovery would be?
I think it started last September moving my kid into her dorm, I carried a TV for 15-20 mins and held it in the same position and when i put it down my bicep hurt like hell for a while then seemed to go away. However, doing body-weight +25lb weighted chins for example started to really aggravate the area as did any type of row so i just worked around it for a few months. Most of the time it felt like a bad case of tendinitis but an MRI in February showed a slight tear.
The reason i did not think it was that bad was because i was still lifting heavy (for me), the day before the surgery i was dead lifting 295 x 3 with no pain at all using an over hand under hand grip. The surgeon who is a good sports medicine specialist is telling me 6-8 months before letting loose in the gym, I am aiming for 4 months because even at my age I tend to heal fast, eat and rest well and am maximizing my supplementation to accelerate healing, specifically connective tissue trauma.
I'm up in Nashua paying 90 a month at CrossFit Tuff run by John Duncan. If you're ever in the area, feel free to swing by, it's a great gym.
Just did 13.4. Didn't feel comfortable pulling 135lb, so I dropped to 115lb. Still pulled up 68 reps, which I'm pretty fucking stoked about.
I watched that whole video and thought "what a fucking waste of energy". I don't get Crossfit. All this momentum swinging does nothing for you. You're not using any muscle groups and risk injury trying to momentum stuff up and down like that.
Crossfit summed up:http://gawker.com/5928989/the-proble...i-of-the-tiger
Dashel
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You will absolutely get stronger and fitter doing Crossfit just like P90X, Insanity, or any other routine you care to name. Try doing that workout and tell me you didnt use any muscle groups.
Sure it's generalized. If your goal is to focus on strength, then there are much better ways to reach those goals. I personally alternate between Crossfit and programs like Starting Strength and Wendler's 5/3/1. It's a good balance for me.
Sure it's generalized. If your goal is to focus on strength, then there are much better ways to reach those goals. I personally alternate between Crossfit and programs like Starting Strength and Wendler's 5/3/1. It's a good balance for me.
Gravel
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You're really big on absolute statements, aren't you?
I bet if you're a pretty big guy, doing Crossfit will make you considerably less strong. There's a lot of cardio, which means a lot of room to lose muscle mass.
If you currently don't do shit, then yeah, sure, Crossfit and all of those other programs are probably great. But just because you "use muscle groups" doesn't mean it's going to make you stronger and fitter.
Then again, I'm talking to the guy who thinks Paleo is the pinnacle of all diets.
I bet if you're a pretty big guy, doing Crossfit will make you considerably less strong. There's a lot of cardio, which means a lot of room to lose muscle mass.
If you currently don't do shit, then yeah, sure, Crossfit and all of those other programs are probably great. But just because you "use muscle groups" doesn't mean it's going to make you stronger and fitter.
Then again, I'm talking to the guy who thinks Paleo is the pinnacle of all diets.
Brahma
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It definitely will have you losing muscle mass. The few guys that are heavy lifters that have tried it at my gym, have quit in a couple months. Their goal was to get cut. They all just get worn out, and cant get complete lifting session in, because they are so damn tired.
Seananigans
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Vanity --> vanilla weight lifting
Functionality --> crossfit
The "strength" argument is flawed. Crossfit will make you stronger and more functional for real-life applications. Power-lifting will make you stronger and more functional for ... power-lifting.
It's pretty simple really.
Functionality --> crossfit
The "strength" argument is flawed. Crossfit will make you stronger and more functional for real-life applications. Power-lifting will make you stronger and more functional for ... power-lifting.
It's pretty simple really.
This is kind of a ridiculous statement. I know probably a dozen people who go to crossfit almost every morning, women included, have made tremendous gains in the time that they have gone, and have none of these issues. It's like anything, you have to adjust.
Typical "heavy lifters" at a gym are going to do to terrible at crossfit. For one, they are generally big guys and weigh a lot, and carry extra fat. Two, 'lifting weights' is really easy in comparison. You go at your on pace, typically take at least a minute between heavy sets, do exercises that really aren't that challenging and aren't indicative of real world performance at all. Saying a bodybuilder is in shape or athletic in any way is insane. They are unhealthy as fuck.
Take a meathead who benches 405 and goes home and eats chicken and rice, and then ice cream on the weekends, bring him to a crossfit gym and have him do a WOD of something like box jumps, pull ups and kettlebell swings for 5 rounds and he might go into cardiac arrest.
They are two entirely different things, and you get cut by fixing your diet not by exercising.
Well, most of crossfit's core movements are powerlifting movements. But, yeah.
It's more functional in that laying on your back and pressing a weight up and down 8 times happens in life almost never. Doing overhead tricep cable extensions and learning how to squat "properly" are a lot diff, and is the diff between "lifting" and crossfit. There's also a huge focus on mobility and stretching in crossfit, and what typical gym rat stretches? No one does.
Gravel
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Fixed that. Powerlifting is just bench, squats, deadlift. Crossfit does mostly olympic lifts, with a bunch of other stuff mixed in.
Edit: Apparently we're both wrong. Didn't realize olympic lifting only consisted of cleans and snatches.
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And also, LOL at saying Crossfit is more practical for Real Life applications. Sitting behind a computer screen 5 days a week? Do whatever works - at the end of the day, people are working out for different reasons (some want strength, others size, others want to look great). Lifting and eating right is the quickest, and easiest way to get the body of a god - flat out. The turnoff for me with Crossfit is the sheer amount of hipster dicksuckers that I see doing it, with bodies of small Asian women. I won't deny its tough, and an exhuasting workout - but if I can lift 4 days a week and box, play ball, etc and look like I look - why would I or anyone change that? For "real world" practical reasons? I'm not a moving guy or a garbage man, so I don't understand that statement at all.
Seananigans
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What don't you understand about the statement? You just said exactly what I said, in different words, and included your own personal interest and leanings.
Chicken and rice is delicious, but you aren't going to lose muscle mass like you have cancer or something. It is less optimal for purely gaining muscle that traditional lifting but crossfit workouts sometimes take a total of 6 minutes in addition to the strength portion. It's just a diff stimulus, you just have to adapt. Anyone trying something new who hasn't done it is gonna be beat. Same with anything.
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The big boys get humbled by crossfit. When I come off a strength program and go back to crossfit, i do slide in strength as I lean out but that is diet based. My endurance is also shit in the beginning but that comes back quickly.
It should also be noted "Crossfit" is not a universal program. At the one I'm going back to we will do a strength workout for 30 minutes a day, linear progression of bench, press, deadlift or squat. So if you are big and continue to eat enough your strength will stay with you and even progress, just very slowly. Most guys are looking for a mix if they come to crossfit though. If you're all about strength you do an appropriate specialize program, you're spinning wheels doing crossfit.
It should also be noted "Crossfit" is not a universal program. At the one I'm going back to we will do a strength workout for 30 minutes a day, linear progression of bench, press, deadlift or squat. So if you are big and continue to eat enough your strength will stay with you and even progress, just very slowly. Most guys are looking for a mix if they come to crossfit though. If you're all about strength you do an appropriate specialize program, you're spinning wheels doing crossfit.
Springbok
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I wasn't qualifying anything, I still don't know what "real world" applications is supposed to mean. I hear it all the time from Crossfit guys/friends, and ALL of them, down to the man work desk jobs. How does doing Crossfit enhance their lives? They aren't firemen for christs sakes - Crossfit isn't going to make them type faster, drive better, or whatever. I'm sure Crossfit works, and the guys that do it are in great shape - but I don't get the notion of real world applications, etc - its 2013. Are all crossfit guys bouldering, rock climbing, or moving furniture on the weekends or something?!
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Both strength and fitness are functional in every way. Anything from playing with your kids, to playing pickup ball with friends. Every time I lift something heavy I appreciate being stronger. Getting the spare table from the basement when we have company is a recent example. Or we're doing our bathroom over and I had to get all the materials, fucking tile weighed 750 pounds! Not all in one box, but still it was heavy. Being generally healthy is good for anyone, keeps your mind sharp too.
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general". - Mark Rippetoe
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general". - Mark Rippetoe