Avengers: Endgame (2019)

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How does one physically strain with all ones might against no force (if he’s worthy). Does being worthy of it also allow you to choose whether the hammer will move or not when you pick it up?
 
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Seananigans said:
How does one physically strain with all ones might against no force (if he’s worthy). Does being worthy of it also allow you to choose whether the hammer will move or not when you pick it up?
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well when all the actors are faking, it's easy to say 'oh look cap is obviously faking'
 
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Except he is obviously faking. After he moves the hammer, he sees the look on Thor's face, resets his grip, tenses his arms and leans back. That's it, he doesn't try to lift it. Just watch the fucking scene. All the information is there.
 
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Worthiness is based on the perspective of a viking warrior god, not whatever bullshit definition you just came up with.
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Umm, a true Viking warrior God’s worthiness would be raping and pillaging. I doubt Cap could lift that hammer.
 
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Love how people just accept the that Cap faking it because he's scared it'll hurt Thor's feelings isn't the dumbest fucking thing ever.

Imagine being such a beta that you hear that and thin "Yeah, that makes sense"
 
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Love how people just accept that Cap being able to slightly move the hammer means that Mjolnir somehow senses that Cap is sorta kinda almost but not quite worthy.

The fucking Hulk couldn't budge it in full rage mode.

 
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Chukzombi

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Ambiturner said:
Love how people just accept the that Cap faking it because he's scared it'll hurt Thor's feelings isn't the dumbest fucking thing ever.

Imagine being such a beta that you hear that and thin "Yeah, that makes sense"
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Cap isnt scared of anyone, why woud your first notion be that he was scared of Thor? he didnt lift it out of respect and because the script didnt say lift it.
 
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Cap isnt scared of anyone, why woud your first notion be that he was scared of Thor? he didnt lift it out of respect and because the script didnt say lift it.
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the script also said tony starks cosmic powered robo butler is totally worthy
 
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Love how people just accept that Cap being able to slightly move the hammer means that Mjolnir somehow senses that Cap is sorta kinda almost but not quite worthy.

The fucking Hulk couldn't budge it in full rage mode.

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Strength doesn't matter if you aren't "worthy" to wield it.
 
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while we are at this, lets discuss how Hawkeye got the Soul Stone. did he really love Natasha as much as Thanos loved Gamorah? how did he end up with it when he wasnt the one willing to sacrifice her to get it?
 
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The soul stone keeper doesn't say you have to sacrifice someone, he simply says you need to lose them

Stonekeeper : In order to take the stone, you must lose that which you love. A soul for a soul.
 
Chukzombi

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Fogel said:
The soul stone keeper doesn't say you have to sacrifice someone, he simply says you need to lose them

Stonekeeper : In order to take the stone, you must lose that which you love. A soul for a soul.
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well, its implied as a sacrifice that you must make at the soulstone planet.
 
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Caliane

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Worthiness is based on the perspective of a viking warrior god, not whatever bullshit definition you just came up with.
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This is literally true.

Superman was not Worthy. Wonder woman was.

Superman is not a warrior. Killing to end a threat is not his first choice. Wonder woman gets shit done. (or she used to, till Cucka and other modern SJWS got a hold of her)
Superman is also not a king. WW is a princess/statesmen.
 
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Cap isnt scared of anyone, why woud your first notion be that he was scared of Thor? he didnt lift it out of respect and because the script didnt say lift it.
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How is it "respectful" to lie to Thor? There's absolutely no reason for him to pretend to not be able to lift it.
 
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Also let's assume that Thor's ego is so frail that cap picking up mjolnir would hurt his feelings. Wouldn't that make Thor UNworthy?
 
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Chukzombi

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How is it "respectful" to lie to Thor? There's absolutely no reason for him to pretend to not be able to lift it.
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in that scene Thor admitted, that if you can lift the hammer then you are king of Asgard. Cap doesnt want to be king. he is the underdog caricature, he fights for the little guy because he once was the little guy. figuratively and literally. if he lifted the hammer there would be a conflict with Thor because Thor is all ego and having a rival would cause a lot of problems. problems that Cap wants no part of. Tony was all ego too, it meant more for him to lift Mjolnir than it ever would for Cap. if that doesnt convince you, then the script said Cap doesnt lift Mjolnir and Feige said Cap was always worthy to lift Mjolnir. so offically, Cap didnt lift Mjolnir because he didnt want to cause issue with Thor, which sounds like something Cap would do.
 
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If we're talking about what cap would or wouldn't do, he'd never TRY to pick up the hammer in that kind of setting. It was a silly little scene where the avengers are screwing around and having a couple drinks. All it was meant to do was foreshadow that nga down the road and that's it.

Secondly, Thor can pick up mjolnir and he isn't king of Asgard. It was just a goofy thing Thor said. No way cap legitimately thought, maybe I should just PRETEND I can't pick it up so I don't endanger Thor's claim to the throne!
 
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Why are we even debating this when the guy who directed Utron said Cap was worthy, when the two guys who directed End Game when he fully wields the hammer said Cap was always worthy, when the main man in charge Feige says Cap was always worthy, I swear Mickey Mouse himself said fucking Cap was always worthy. Anything besides him being worthy is you being in denial or trolling.
 
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It's because all those people who said he was always worthy, said it in retrospect. And so it begs the question, "why didn't he lift it earlier?"

Personally, I think cap was always worthy, but mcu Steve rogers is a different character than comic Steve Rogers.
 
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