The XP payouts for dialogue/roleplay stuff are starting to get really lame the further I go.
Specifically the goblin camp:
You can spend hours smooth talking your way around the camp but it's just a complete waste of time and doesn't really get you anywhere. There's no payout for doing any of it, and the resolution of the camp ultimately comes down to just goblin genocide and it's the objective correct choice in terms of loot/xp anyway.
If you get real sneaky you can poison the goblin ale and most of them die from but it doesn't pay out any XP which is just a straight up loss of ~400xp compared to just murdering the entire place by hand etc.
I'm basically back to the Divinity 2 method of using all the dialogue options against random bandits or whatever then immediately entering turn-based mode the second I talk them down and stabbing them all to death anyway, which feels pretty lame
I'm playing a talkie bard and dont feel like its costing too much xp. I was level 4 before entering the goblin camp, "swamp" area, underdark, or temple of Wakeen. I did kill most/all of the Gnolls and did the initial barb chick's quest, though. I talked my way out of both groups of Gobos in the first looted village and got XP for it. I haven't been keeping track of XP for talking, but it's sprinkled in.
There are a few reasons that talking to the goblins is beneficial (light spoilers, with medium ones blured):
You can side with them, if you want.
They have a huge stockpile of barrels that you can move around next to all the friendly goblins...then blow them all up, including the leaders.
There are various ways to sabotage them or set up a battle, like letting the spiders out, or, as mentioned, poisoning them. I didn't poising them, so surprised they didn't give xp, but the spiders gave exp, even though I wasn't involved.
You can get a buff from a priest of pain that gives +2 to attack rolls and wis saves for 3 turns when you hit 30% life.
There is a gobo vender outside and a dwarf one inside that you can steal from. I think the gobo vendor is gone if you attack the camp, but the dwarf will be met later in the game (I think).
Follower rep gains from conversations with gobos
Camp pet: Owlbear cub can be a camp pet, if you don't kill it.
Mortym made a nice class breakdown with the changes from 5e to the game. Might be helpful for some and might be completely useless for anybody that plays table top, but I watched his monk one the other day just to see what the skill progression was and it looks like they tweaked a lot of things to make it a viable class with the level 12 cap.
I just bought it. I think I want to play a Dwarf, but I don't know all the races. Other than Bard, Barb, Lock and Mage I have no idea what the classes are nor what I want to play. What I do know is I want to just be angry at the world, I want my character to have huge chip on his shoulder and choose violence and harsh words over peace and kindness. Basically I want him to be FoH Brand.
Mortym made a nice class breakdown with the changes from 5e to the game. Might be helpful for some and might be completely useless for anybody that plays table top, but I watched his monk one the other day just to see what the skill progression was and it looks like they tweaked a lot of things to make it a viable class with the level 12 cap.
Ya, they moved a bunch of high level monk skills to the lower levels so you don't feel too gimped, especially the melee focused subclass tree. I've been enjoying my monk playthrough so far.
Ya, they moved a bunch of high level monk skills to the lower levels so you don't feel too gimped, especially the melee focused subclass tree. I've been enjoying my monk playthrough so far.
Yeah, I was wanting to originally play Monk because that's what I played in one of the last table top campaigns with my friends, and had a lot of fun. Then when I found out the level cap deal, I kind of shelved the idea, but I think I'm going to jump back to it.
I'm still trying to figure out if I want to do open hand or shadow.
Hit the part where you get your first sex scene, and none of the chicks will sleep with me but the firery chick that "wishes she could ride me, but needs to figure out how to cool down first". Jesus Christ it's like high school all over again!
I'm playing a talkie bard and dont feel like its costing too much xp. I was level 4 before entering the goblin camp, "swamp" area, underdark, or temple of Wakeen. I did kill most/all of the Gnolls and did the initial barb chick's quest, though. I talked my way out of both groups of Gobos in the first looted village and got XP for it. I haven't been keeping track of XP for talking, but it's sprinkled in.
There are a few reasons that talking to the goblins is beneficial (light spoilers, with medium ones blured):
You can side with them, if you want.
They have a huge stockpile of barrels that you can move around next to all the friendly goblins...then blow them all up, including the leaders.
There are various ways to sabotage them or set up a battle, like letting the spiders out, or, as mentioned, poisoning them. I didn't poising them, so surprised they didn't give xp, but the spiders gave exp, even though I wasn't involved.
You can get a buff from a priest of pain that gives +2 to attack rolls and wis saves for 3 turns when you hit 30% life.
There is a gobo vender outside and a dwarf one inside that you can steal from. I think the gobo vendor is gone if you attack the camp, but the dwarf will be met later in the game (I think).
Follower rep gains from conversations with gobos
Camp pet: Owlbear cub can be a camp pet, if you don't kill it.
Yeah I hit 4 after killing all 3 leaders just now.
I just used the rogue guy from above hitting the fire chandaliers that explode on falling to start the fights. I also saved the bear guy and he makes a great tank.
I haven't seen gnolls yet or barb chick. Was basically to grove then goblin camp with a stop in the spider cavern.
I just bought it. I think I want to play a Dwarf, but I don't know all the races. Other than Bard, Barb, Lock and Mage I have no idea what the classes are nor what I want to play. What I do know is I want to just be angry at the world, I want my character to have huge chip on his shoulder and choose violence and harsh words over peace and kindness. Basically I want him to be FoH Brand.
Pick whatever race you think looks cool. The differences between them don't matter much. I picked Iksar. You can respec for a modest amount of gold fairly early on
That frog in the swamp - talking to him with animal talking potion on - he fucking beat my ass for it. Thought "fine, ill get him later" and then walked into the vampire hunter fuck and got my ass beat again. Swamps brutal.
Man wtf climbed down this ladder that was behind the door of the goblin priest. Took me way down into this huge cave system with purple rocks all over. But before I could explore this npc in a suit showed up and teleported my whole group into this mansion, telling me to eat his food. I said no, so he turned into the devil and said he could take my tadpole out. I said no didnt trust a crazy devil. Just sent me back to the cave. Curious what would happen if I took his offer.
Man wtf climbed down this ladder that was behind the door of the goblin priest. Took me way down into this huge cave system with purple rocks all over. But before I could explore this npc in a suit showed up and teleported my whole group into this mansion, telling me to eat his food. I said no, so he turned into the devil and said he could take my tadpole out. I said no didnt trust a crazy devil. Just sent me back to the cave. Curious what would happen if I took his offer.
I jumped up on the hill outside of the crashed ship and he showed up and ported my ass off to his mansion. Must be a random event. As much as the Devil's offer has come up in conversation, I think you'll want to encounter him as soon as possible. I took a rain check on his offer cause Im not googling the answer and just about all of my companions have pulled me off to the side and talked about the offer.
Its like a nice type of weird to be playing a game with so much mystery to it.
I just bought it. I think I want to play a Dwarf, but I don't know all the races. Other than Bard, Barb, Lock and Mage I have no idea what the classes are nor what I want to play. What I do know is I want to just be angry at the world, I want my character to have huge chip on his shoulder and choose violence and harsh words over peace and kindness. Basically I want him to be FoH Brand.
The new understanding is there is no need to reroll after u plow 5hrs in it and feel character remorse.
You can change yr character class and it's pretty early on...
