Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
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Shonuff
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There's nothing wrong with 300, I've seen it many times.
It is disheartening that the ratings are so low on this. It would be a shame that a humor-less and direction-less first movie could kill the DC universe boot-up. Unfortunately, DC believes that grimdark is the only way to go with superheroes. I can't wait for the grimdark Booster Gold movie.
These negative reviews, and the fact that they are being posted all over social media, are going to hurt the box office.
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Da fuq are you talking about? 300 is great. The only scenes that are painful are those oracle/old religious guy scenes.
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well IMDB is just user reviews, whereas RT/MC is critics only. The user reviews part of RT/MC is closer to IMDB, but a good chunk of those people are just going to be fanbois giving it 10/10 or haters giving it 1/10, so not sure how valuable that is. End of the day RT/MC ratings will definitely opening impact box office.
be interesting to see how BvS opens now, people were predicting 200m+ opening weekend but I think thats out the window now.
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This is what has me so confused on the DCU. Obviously I haven't seen BvS yet, but with all the grim dark talk, is there any levity at all? I've seen Man of Steel twice and I can't really remember any jokes. I'm not saying every movie needs to be Deadpool, but even Thor and First Avenger had light hearted moments and a joke here or there.
Is it a result of that DC game intro from a few years back with all the characters beating the hell out eachother? That got a lot of favorable reaction, are they trying to hit that tone on the DC movies?
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Shonuff
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I don't think DCUO changed the tone of the BvS. Awhile back on FOH, I posted a link of a supposedly leaked Time-Warner memo discussing "grimdarking." The memo went something along the lines of: Batman is selling well, but Superman Returns was a (relative) flop. So only superhero movies that are dark sell well. Henceforth, from this point on, all future characters will be presented in as dark a manner as possible. This studio suffers from groupthink, and has for years. This is why we've only gotten Batman and Superman all of these decades. Because the group used to think that only Batman and Superman sold. The only reason why things have changed at DC is because Marvel has had success with all of their movies lately. Even Ant Man was a hit.
DC fails to realize that it's the story that sells the movie. If BvS flops, they'll just use that to further justify that only Batman/Superman can do well in a movie. And not realize it flopped because they used BvS as an informercial for the rest of their universe. As I understand it, they are going to cram every DC hero they can on BvS.
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Gavinmad
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Yeah I went ahead and read it, spoilers and all.
KRYPTONITE! THEY FUCKING WENT WITH KRYPTONITE!!! JESUS CHRIST KRYPTON WAS SO FUCKING FAR AWAY THAT BY THE TIME A CHUNK OF KRYPTON TRAVELING AT RELATIVISTIC SPEED ARRIVED ON EARTH THE SUN WOULD HAVE EXPANDED INTO A RED GIANT AND FUCKING DESTROYED EARTH.
Seriously, they had a perfect setup for Batman to have somehow gotten readings on Kryptonian atmosphere and make some kind of gas grenade with the same effect as Kryptonite, but no they had to go with the retardedly impossible chunk of Krypton somehow making it all the way to Earth.
Seriously, they had a perfect setup for Batman to have somehow gotten readings on Kryptonian atmosphere and make some kind of gas grenade with the same effect as Kryptonite, but no they had to go with the retardedly impossible chunk of Krypton somehow making it all the way to Earth.
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Weeks ago they were already hedging their bets by releasing information about R rated versions and hidden characters. It should immediately have made everyone wonder: what's wrong with this one?
It's still going to make a lot of money thanks to tits. But frankly DC and Superman is a tough sell in today's world. Most of us want Lex to build a wall, or the Joker to patrol streets to imprison Muslims. Superman is some pussy that wants to take your guns and give Iran nukes. It's a much easier sell when you have Nazis and Commies as your foil.
It's still going to make a lot of money thanks to tits. But frankly DC and Superman is a tough sell in today's world. Most of us want Lex to build a wall, or the Joker to patrol streets to imprison Muslims. Superman is some pussy that wants to take your guns and give Iran nukes. It's a much easier sell when you have Nazis and Commies as your foil.
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Zak Snyder "I tried to do it in a technical way. There?s a great YouTube video that shows all the kills in the Christopher Nolan movies even though we would perceive them as movies where he doesn?t kill anyone. I think there?s 42 potential kills that Batman does! Also said:
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I'm trying to avoid as many spoilers as possible, but that quote by Snyder above is really making it hard for me to go into this movie expecting anything but the worst. Much as you and I go back and forth, I don't want the Batman he's describing either. We all know there isn't going to be a winner between the two no matter what the tone of the movie, but if by some miracle they did actually show Superman getting the upper hand, I wouldn't take it because this isn't the Batman that we should be getting. It really isn't either of them we should be getting, from the sound of it.
Fuck, now I'm actually sort of bummed about going to this tonight.
Shonuff
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I'm trying to stay upbeat about it, as the kids are geeked up about it. I've been bummed for a couple of days now, as it seems like critic after critic is trashing this. And I'm hoping that the critics are wrong. I'll know in six hours.
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Since I already saw it, let me reply to your spoilers, it could pacify you about this particular complaint, though the movie has other issues.
They find a mineral in the movie that is akin to Krytponite, but it's not a chunk of destroyed Krypton. Instead it's found inside the destroyed machines the Kryptonians used in Man of Steel to antigrav the fuck out of Metropolis. The machine that was on the other side of the planet in the Indian Ocean is the one where they find the big chunk of mineral. And Batman DOES create gas grenades from that mineral, which he uses plenty during his fights with Kryptonians in the movie.
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