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Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
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Shonuff
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Actually, there's website out there cataloging Thor's feats that says he's just as OP as Superman, and gives the comic pages to prove it. Other than flying through time (but Thor can teleport into other dimensions), Thor and Superman have the same power level.
Superman moves planets = Thor moves the Midgard Serpent (which has the same mass of the Earth)
Superman is almost completely invulnerable = Thor has withstood blasts that ricocheted off of him and destroyed planets
If I had the time, I'd find it.
radditsu
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It all really depends on which superman. Like all "feats". Kal EL vs Kal-L vs the other Kal-L or the other Kal-L or the other Kal-L
Shonuff
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Actually, here it is (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/comics...ts-thor-a47839).
Read through these and tell me Thor isn't as OP as Superman. These are just some of them:
Strength:
1. Thor arm-wrestles Hercules to a draw, causing the area to collapse and shifting the planet out of orbit.
2. In probably his most famous strength feat, Thor lifts the Midgard Serpent, which is said to be half or just as heavy as the planet Earth itself.
3. Resists the gravimetic pressure equal to the weight of a neutron star.
7. Carves out an uru hammer with his fingers.
11. Closes a chasm of "a million tons of earth" over Loki.
12. Effortlessly snaps out of adamantium alloy cables.
13. Crushes the Silver Surfer's force-field (amped by Loki's magic) that kept him away from Mjolnir.
14. Again, Thor destroy another one of Silver Surfer's force-fields with one strike.
15. Thor's punches, that when combined with another of equal strength, are capable of closing dimensional rifts.
16. Knocked out Abomination with a single blow.
Durability:
1. Receives only minor scratch marks from Wolverine's adamantium claws.
4. Survives being crushes by the weight of 20 planets.
5. Being unaffected by the temperature of the sun while confronting Atum.
6. Withstood an attack he created against Surtur that was 1000 times hotter than the sun.
7. Resisted temporal forces that can freeze molecules.
9. Survives an energy attack from Thanos that destroyed the planet.
Read through these and tell me Thor isn't as OP as Superman. These are just some of them:
Strength:
1. Thor arm-wrestles Hercules to a draw, causing the area to collapse and shifting the planet out of orbit.
2. In probably his most famous strength feat, Thor lifts the Midgard Serpent, which is said to be half or just as heavy as the planet Earth itself.
3. Resists the gravimetic pressure equal to the weight of a neutron star.
7. Carves out an uru hammer with his fingers.
11. Closes a chasm of "a million tons of earth" over Loki.
12. Effortlessly snaps out of adamantium alloy cables.
13. Crushes the Silver Surfer's force-field (amped by Loki's magic) that kept him away from Mjolnir.
14. Again, Thor destroy another one of Silver Surfer's force-fields with one strike.
15. Thor's punches, that when combined with another of equal strength, are capable of closing dimensional rifts.
16. Knocked out Abomination with a single blow.
Durability:
1. Receives only minor scratch marks from Wolverine's adamantium claws.
4. Survives being crushes by the weight of 20 planets.
5. Being unaffected by the temperature of the sun while confronting Atum.
6. Withstood an attack he created against Surtur that was 1000 times hotter than the sun.
7. Resisted temporal forces that can freeze molecules.
9. Survives an energy attack from Thanos that destroyed the planet.
Shonuff
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Don't forget, at any given time, Thor can put on his belt of strength (which doubles his strength) and can summon the entire lifeforce of the Asgardians (including Odin). Odin has gone toe to toe with Galactus, and Thor can add Odin's power to his. Plus at any given time, he can summon all of the storms from 1,000 worlds and hit you with them simultaneously.
Woolygimp
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This is a movie thread, not a comic book thread. The MCU is fun, entertaining, and worth watching. I LIKE LAUGHING IN FICTIONAL ACTION MOVIES (LIKE STAR WARS)! I don't ever want to watch a DC movie again, ever.
There are quite a few times in the movies so far that prove MCU Thor is indeed mortal, can't move planets, and can be killed as easily as a building/spacefraft toppling on him, or being stabbed by a strong alien. Except if Thor dies, he won't magically regenerate because of "Earth's radiation, lulz!" Idris Elba's character who is a great Asgardian is obviously able to be killed should he be hit with a laser, like Odin's wife. These characters aren't invulnerable to damage, except for perhaps the Hulk.
Superman can wrestle Gods, and his fucking hair never changes. He never sweats. He never shows signs of exhaustion. He is fucking NUKED and it looks like he just came out of a beauty salon. His popularity has to be some perverse man-crushes or something.
Nobody said anything about Superman being OP, just that he's fucking boring. He isn't funny or cool or even a bit of a cunt, he's just boring.
Woolygimp
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And in that regard, Henry Cavill was perfectly cast. If there's ever a movie that needs someone to play a wall or a cardboard box, he's your man to call. Keanu Reeves starred in the Matrix, so he gets some leeway. Henry Cavill is Keanu Reeves, without the Matrix. He has a monotone voice, and just goes through the motions like he's ultra cool and confident but it's just so very, very lame. I don't want to spend 15 minutes watching him float over Louis Lane blowing her a kiss, ffs. This isn't Twilight.
Superman could defeat the Avengers by himself. I mean what the fuck, without Kryptonite, which doesn't exist in the MCU you can't even scratch him. He'd vaporize every human member of the team (Stark, Hawkeye, Natalia) with his laser beam. He might use his X-ray vision to look through Natalia's clothes first. He'd fly the Hulk up into outer space and drop him off. He'd disassemble the Vision by tearing him limb from limb. Thor would get thrown back to Asgard. Even getting stabbed in the presence of Kryptonite can't kill him, so basically even if they won it would only be until the next movie. We've seen what he can do to missiles, drones, and aircraft. He'd kill Starlord and his entire crew by just flying through his spaceship.
So it'd be Superman vs the Avengers part I, then II, then III, then IV, then V, then VI until he finally killed them all since he resurrects and all.
He's OP & boring.
Shonuff
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Shonuff
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Thor is magic based, so you don't have a real strong argument, as Superman has no more defense against magic than regular humans. In the Marvel vs DC crossover, Superman barely beat Thor, and they gave Superman the win, as Thor did not use his storm or lightning (which are pure magic attacks). And then the Avengers did beat Superman.
Go and read the link I gave on Thor. Thor has shrugged off blasts that destroy planets. Superman has gotten KO'd by omega beams. Think of it this way. Darkseid and Thanos are clones of each other (Marvel cloned Darkseid, and the DC ripped off Darkseid worshipping death). Superman has gone toe to toe with Darkseid (sometimes losing). Thor has gone toe to toe with Thanos (maybe he's losing a little more, but the fights are close).
Thor and Superman are really close in power.
Woolygimp
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This is the movie universe we're talking about. Both Thor and Odin are mortal in the MCU canon. Had the ship fallen on him in Dark World, he would have died.
Ambiturner
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Superman's definitely > Thor, but it's not completely one sided. Also, while Superman takes Thor or Hulk individually, he doesn't take them both without some shenanigans like sun dipping.
Shonuff
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Interesting that you bring up Dark World. Thor and Malekith and flying through buildings and smashing around stuff like DBZ, the same as Superman v Zod in Man of Steel.
Leadsalad
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Wat? They're all basically unkillable. How does 1v1 never ending fight become a 2v1 never ending fight but actually end in the death of an invincible?
Seananigans
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This trash is already out on dvd/blu, and I have to wait til Sept 13 for Civil War
The double-edged sword of success bites hard.
The double-edged sword of success bites hard.
Woolygimp
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Hulk, Wolvering, and Thor can all die. Superman cannot.
Like a previous poster said, he could just fly them into outer space and drop them off in a supernova. He fucking survived a nuclear blast ffs. Tony Stark was able to knock the Hulk out with a suit of armor, and there are several instances where Thor could've died throughout the films already. In Thor 1, in Thor 2, in Avengers 1, in Avengers: AOU all show Thor in situations where he could've bit the dust. Wolverine can be vaporized.
You drop a nuke on the Avenger's facility and they're all dead. Superman falls asleep for 15 seconds and then wakes up.
Technically the Christian version of God can die (if he were to lose the battle against Lucifer), something that Superman isn't able to do, lol.
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You can't keep ripping on things from DC comics and then ignoring things from Marvel comics by saying "it's a movie thread", like 80% of your initial ranting was about Superman's character and stories from the past 60 years, and now you've sort of backed off that but are still alluding to Superman's absurd power history, none of which really exists in the 2-movie-long story we have right now. A nuclear blast isn't some omg wtf omni weapon that is the grand test for if someone is invulnerable.
And then you complain about a bunch of Superman characteristics that HAVE been addressed in the comics, citing those characteristics from the comics still, while ignoring the fact that it goes both ways and a significant amount of the "retarded" power was from terrible writers doing stupid things in goobery times, just like with 99% of popular comic heroes. You say Wolverine can die, but there's been no evidence of that in the X-Men movies (which aren't actually produced or involved with Marvel anyway, but still), same with the Hulk... Iron Man "knocked him out" while he was under some magic brain-fuckery that did who knows what (and could have been what knocked him out + Banner willpower, who knows) but there was no physical evidence that he was actually hurt at all. Marvel has done a decent job at de-powering their heroes but they've all been under the same plot-armor Superman and Batman live in the entire time. You're kidding yourself if you think there's tension in those movies about them getting killed, because there's not. Is it theoretically possible? Sure. It is with Batman, and Superman, too but it will not happen anytime soon, if ever, in the movie universes.
You don't like Superman, that's fine, whatever, I don't either except in exceedingly rare cases (Red Son is the only one that comes to mind). You clearly hated BvS, also fine, it was garbage. But so are your "arguments" that you're presenting as facts while patently ignoring all rebuttal and doubling-down on your own opinions as if they're research papers.
And then you complain about a bunch of Superman characteristics that HAVE been addressed in the comics, citing those characteristics from the comics still, while ignoring the fact that it goes both ways and a significant amount of the "retarded" power was from terrible writers doing stupid things in goobery times, just like with 99% of popular comic heroes. You say Wolverine can die, but there's been no evidence of that in the X-Men movies (which aren't actually produced or involved with Marvel anyway, but still), same with the Hulk... Iron Man "knocked him out" while he was under some magic brain-fuckery that did who knows what (and could have been what knocked him out + Banner willpower, who knows) but there was no physical evidence that he was actually hurt at all. Marvel has done a decent job at de-powering their heroes but they've all been under the same plot-armor Superman and Batman live in the entire time. You're kidding yourself if you think there's tension in those movies about them getting killed, because there's not. Is it theoretically possible? Sure. It is with Batman, and Superman, too but it will not happen anytime soon, if ever, in the movie universes.
You don't like Superman, that's fine, whatever, I don't either except in exceedingly rare cases (Red Son is the only one that comes to mind). You clearly hated BvS, also fine, it was garbage. But so are your "arguments" that you're presenting as facts while patently ignoring all rebuttal and doubling-down on your own opinions as if they're research papers.
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radditsu
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Except the time he died in the 90s and the time he died about 2 months ago. They all come back.
Good job with the trolls, keep it up.
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I'm sensing a trend in Woolygimp's arguing style. First Star Wars, then Game of Thrones, now comic book movies.
Intredasting.
EDIT: Also, Henry Cavill was great in The Man From UNCLE. You just don't like the way they have told him to play Superman. Which is fine. But it isn't necessarily him that is the problem.
Intredasting.
EDIT: Also, Henry Cavill was great in The Man From UNCLE. You just don't like the way they have told him to play Superman. Which is fine. But it isn't necessarily him that is the problem.