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If you're ok with something smaller than a big city, Charlottesville, VA is pretty cool. It's not too far from Richmond either. If you're really looking for a city, I'd say NYC, San Fran, or DC, but you ruled those out.
 

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The "best" place to live varies wildly depending on what you are looking for. If you don't have to get a job then I think a decent case could be made for Coeur d'alene.

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We have an office 30 min away in Spokane and I could telecommute several days per week- make your case if you're up for it.
 

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I'm not up for it. All I know about it is that it's fucking gorgeous. It certainly doesn't meet your criteria of Mediterranean climate though.
 

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I'm not up for it. All I know about it is that it's fucking gorgeous. It certainly doesn't meet your criteria of Mediterranean climate though.
Med climate is pretty nice. But Boulder certainly doesn't have one and it's still near the top of the list because Boulder's climate is still nice enough to score high on that metric.

Ironically I drove through Coeur two weeks ago on an epic road trip from Savannah to Portland, but due to unforeseen circumstances we had to drive through Idaho in the middle of the night. We knew we missed out on some gorgeous country as we did it, too.

We went through went GA, KY, TN, KY, IL, MO, KS, CO, WY, MT, ID, WA, OR. I started an Instagram on day 1 with a pic of me in the Atlantic at Tybee Beach and ended on Day 4 with a pic of me in the Pacific in OR. We hit Medicine Bow, Jackson, Tetons, Yellowstone, Missoula, and the Gorge in OR all in 4 days- in a 26' moving truck towing another vehicle.

Anyway, I thought MT was the best of what we saw, but I doubt I would want to live there.
 

Arden

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If you're ok with something smaller than a big city, Charlottesville, VA is pretty cool. It's not too far from Richmond either. If you're really looking for a city, I'd say NYC, San Fran, or DC, but you ruled those out.
I'm from VA and ironically it seems like the only state in the Union where I CAN'T find an opening... Charlottesville is pretty badass though. I spent a good amount of time there growing up. UVA undergrads can be a pain in the balls though.
 

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Let me cast another vote for San Luis Obispo.

Granted, San Diego is literally my idea of perfect weather, but the expense and traffic have been mentioned a lot already. I went to college for four years at Cal Poly SLO and absolutely loved it. I've always sort of wanted to go back, and this thread is making me nostalgic to the point where I'm actually considering looking for a job there, since my current job is meaningless. My family lives here (Sacramento), but SLO is close enough to visit, and my best friend lives in San Diego, so that's not a bad in-between.

It was a long time ago that I went to school there (87-91), so it has definitely grown up a lot since then, but being a college town you still can't go anywhere without seeing a hot chick working in a store or riding her bike or walking around. Or dude if you're into that. There were always tons of artsy things going on, and the Farmer's Market that was mentioned has been going on every Thursday (I think?) for decades. Plenty of beaches nearby, with Avila being sort of the one most preferred by college students, but worst actual beach, and Pismo and Morro Bay better beaches but a little less crowded. There used to not be a lot of choice as far as shopping or movies etc. but a lot of that has changed. We used to have to drive 20-30 minutes to a real multiplex theater or a Software Etc./Babbages type store, but I'm pretty sure that has all been remedied by now.

The weather is slightly colder during the winter and slightly hotter during the summer than San Diego, but not anywhere near the extremes that Sacramento experiences. If it got over 100 in SLO that was rare. Plenty of 90s, but usually lower 90s. And I think someone earlier questioned there being a ton of fog, but that isn't really common in SLO itself. You might hit it if you want to drive to Morro Bay at night once in awhile, but you're typically far enough inland that you don't get most of it. Hell, I think we get more fog here in Sacramento due to the American River.

It is NOT going to have the diversity of culture and nightlife that a lot of those other cities have though. Nightlife back in the day was pretty much college students getting drunk, and I can't imagine that has changed a lot, but unless you need to be out several nights a week doing something new and fun, which I don't, that is enough for me. You will probably run out of unique things to do pretty quickly though if that's one of your biggest concerns. There isn't anything really close enough to get that variety either without hitting Santa Barbara (not sure that qualifies as culture though) or Los Angeles. The towns in a 30-mile radius are just as barren of culture, unless you like things like the quaintness of Morro Bay (I met Jack LaLane there once, apparently he lived there) or the Madonna Inn (if it is still standing).

It all depends on how much culture and nightlife and that "big city" feel matter to you I guess. If they don't, I think it has a good blend of weather, location, cost of living, easy traffic, and a constant influx of hot college kids that really make it attractive. Fuck, now I really want to move there.
 

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Anyway, I thought MT was the best of what we saw, but I doubt I would want to live there.
MT is awesome, but we have real winter here. The good part of it is that it keeps a lot of people away.
 

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San Francisco probably has the best climate in the world if that's all you care about.
 

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The "best" place to live varies wildly depending on what you are looking for. If you don't have to get a job then I think a decent case could be made for Coeur d'alene.

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The great news about Coeur D'alene is if you get your private pilot's cert you will be know the area like the back of your hand. Almost all the test/training material uses KCOE extensively.
 

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San Francisco probably has the best climate in the world if that's all you care about.
You haven't traveled if you think that. It's good, but far from the best. To me, the best climates are ones that are both fairly high up in the mountains, close to the equator and near the ocean. A nice mix of warm but not hot days, cool nights and extremely stable weather that is exactly the same year round. Not many places fit the bill though. (Colombia peru and equador have a couple.)

After that, warm ocean island climates are a close second.
 

Big Phoenix

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Yea but lima is also like 10000 feet or about 3000m for you metric folk.

San Francisco would be the prefect place to live of it wasn't the mecca of liberal idiocy in this country and also one of the most expensive places on top of it.
 

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I think even homeless people in San Fran are renting out their cardboard boxes for 1K a month to desperate tech workers seeking lodging.
 

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For the outdoor activity part you could do a lot worse than Idaho. Pretty good place for that kind of thing. For anything else IDK so much, I'd assume maybe affordable at least.
 

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homeless people in san fran are so fucking annoying. they will follow your for blocks begging.
 

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For the outdoor activity part you could do a lot worse than Idaho. Pretty good place for that kind of thing. For anything else IDK so much, I'd assume maybe affordable at least.
Yeah I checked out Boise after some people here mentioned it. Pretty solid spot it seems. Climate similar to Boulder and the city is a decent size. Tons of outdoor stuff. Very affordable.
 

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I used to live in Monterey and grew up on the Oregon Coast in Coos Bay. But I've lived in Tampa, Raleigh, and southern Arizona (Tucson area). So most of the locales in the USA that are not the Arctic, as I absolutely do not do winter proper.

That being said, if I had a choice, rather if I was willing to deal with Silicon Valley shit I would gladly live in Santa Cruz, CA forever. Or anywhere farther North in CA. I absolutely love the PNW and that whole area. But I am not willing to deal with CA prices.

I'm due for a move in a year or two. I think its time for move back to the PNW for the first time since 2005. I'll keep Idaho in mind if I can bear a winter there.
 

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Yeah I checked out Boise after some people here mentioned it. Pretty solid spot it seems. Climate similar to Boulder and the city is a decent size. Tons of outdoor stuff. Very affordable.
Negs aside, I grew up in Monterey, went to school in San Diego and Santa Cruz all in CA and retired to Sedona, AZ, all places you would expect a good meal as they are all tourist destinations, but the best Italian restaurant I've ever been to for food and atmosphere has been in Meridian, just outside of Boise.
 

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Why are so many folks hung up on SF? I've lived in Tampa, San Diego, Las Vegas, SF, and LA, and SF ranked way below both San Diego and LA in climate. Even in the summer in SF, you had to carry around a jacket just in case, because the weather was so variable during the day. Not only that, but it was variable over a week - one day you'll get a perfect sunny day, the next you get a ton of fog, the next cold rain, etc. Personally I was happy to leave SF and move back to SoCal - weather is so much more dependable and nice all the time here.