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Chukzombi

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Lanx said:
as a public defender he got 700 for defending 3 guys
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i think he wanted 2100, cuz it was one guy each but the court payed per trial.
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its really hard to wrap my head around. he's got 49 clients and no office or assistants, other than Huell. i mean he played that one time trick on the DA chick, but that was just for 16 clients. he's still got a crazy caseload and for nickels and dimes.
 
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Chukzombi said:
its really hard to wrap my head around. he's got 49 clients and no office or assistants, other than Huell. i mean he played that one time trick on the DA chick, but that was just for 16 clients. he's still got a crazy caseload and for nickels and dimes.
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I think the show makes it quite clear he's the kind of guy extremely guilty people would call to be their lawyer. Most of them don't really care for trial, they're just looking for a nice plea bargain to get off. Some of them don't even understand the stakes, as depicted. The two crackheads make a sequence about that.

I mean most of his cases are quite obvious prosecution slamdunks and they'll get worse with discovery / trial procedure. The ADA / Saul elevator scene is just there for Saul to get some time he'd normally doesn't have because he's a billboard lawyer 99% of ADAs wouldn't care since they have 90h / week workload in normal times.

The Mexican storyline is getting quite genuine, where it's easier to "move" product than cash. Moving product is simple logistics, moving cash is hard since it takes a lot more space than drugs, and distribution / control requires a lot of manpower and management. I think Gus is at that point where cash management would be easier with less people getting their beak in.
 
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Lanx

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Bondurant said:
I think the show makes it quite clear he's the kind of guy extremely guilty people would call to be their lawyer. Most of them don't really care for trial, they're just looking for a nice plea bargain to get off. Some of them don't even understand the stakes, as depicted. The two crackheads make a sequence about that.

I mean most of his cases are quite obvious prosecution slamdunks and they'll get worse with discovery / trial procedure. The ADA / Saul elevator scene is just there for Saul to get some time he'd normally doesn't have because he's a billboard lawyer 99% of ADAs wouldn't care since they have 90h / week workload in normal times.

The Mexican storyline is getting quite genuine, where it's easier to "move" product than cash. Moving product is simple logistics, moving cash is hard since it takes a lot more space than drugs, and distribution / control requires a lot of manpower and management. I think Gus is at that point where cash management would be easier with less people getting their beak in.
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yea it just seams like Saul will do anything to keep you out of jail, thats his budding rep. If you have an increasing client base that DO NOT goto prison (but obvious have a huge rap sheet), then he's going to be amazing.

it's probably gonna be Hank busts in and trys to wrangle crazy8, but we know from BB crazy8 never does any time... he just gets to play with pottery lulz
 
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yeah, total filler episode...but not bad.

The Mike story was really not needed, but seeing Saul get "initiated" into the cartel was interesting to me.
 
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Didn't hate this episode. Saul stuff was fantastic.

I am getting tired of Kim though. I could care less about some bank building a call center. The less screen time she gets the better.
 
Chukzombi

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Div said:
Didn't hate this episode. Saul stuff was fantastic.

I am getting tired of Kim though. I could care less about some bank building a call center. The less screen time she gets the better.
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they gotta toss her in or else this becomes a sausage fest.
 
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I really, really loved seeing Hank and Gomie again, especially thinking about their... ending. They just slipped so quickly into those characters, it was awesome.

Kim is a mystery to me, interesting character but I just can't figure her out at all. Did the old man clock her right, was she completely lying about her childhood to play a sympathy card and get her way? Why is she going to so much trouble? Why is she so pissed at the end? The character definitely feels out of place in the show so far, I don't hate her or anything but its like a random second TV show at this point.

Saul is still the weakest part of the show, he really didn't have a whole lot to do here.

I wonder when Tuco is coming back, I think he's in prison or something now still from seasons 1 & 2.
 
Chukzombi

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The characters they played for five seasons of Breaking Bad?




Truly the new Chukzombi Chukzombi
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dont look at me, i like Kim, but i agree she doesnt seem to have much of a point right now other than wondering how they get rid of her. honestly i thought rancher man was going to shoot her for being a trespasser.
 
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I'm going to guess that she gives up the corporate work for pro-bono and public defender stuff... and then gets killed by one of her pro-bonos. Thus making saul disgusted at the whole "ethical" way of doing things permanently.
 
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kim is still my tv ride or die bitch, i ain't give her up cuz she's got some morals bothering her
 
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Kim is just jimmy but can't pull it of like Jimmy. It just so naturally for him to be Saul. She will probably put her self in a position she can't talk her way out of like Jimmy.
 
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Kim achieved what she needed to do when she met the rancher. Client was satisfied and she was right. The law was on their side and the old timer was fucked. Deep down I believe shes a good person which is why she went back to try to help the old guy out. She didn't have to do that, or look for places for him, or offer to take a day off. In the process of trying to do the right thing she slips into Saul mode with the story time and gets called out for it. She meant well but the dark side is always tugging at her in some way or another and being close to Saul seems to amplify it all the more.
 
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Chukzombi said:
dont look at me, i like Kim, but i agree she doesnt seem to have much of a point right now other than wondering how they get rid of her. honestly i thought rancher man was going to shoot her for being a trespasser.
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It was more the idiocy of spronk spronk not knowing what the point of her character is, when it's actually pretty fucking obvious. I referenced you because you're notorious for bad TV takes, but I think Spronk has stolen your crown
 
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Div said:
Didn't hate this episode. Saul stuff was fantastic.

I am getting tired of Kim though. I could care less about some bank building a call center. The less screen time she gets the better.
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The point of it is that she just doesn't have the talent for such deception that Saul has. Nor does she want to. Not even close. Saul could have got that guy out of that house for sure. And he probably will and Kim will be angry about it.

She is angry that Sauls skills are so effective when she just wishes that honesty and hard work would be effective.
 
Lanx

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The point of it is that she just doesn't have the talent for such deception that Saul has. Nor does she want to. Not even close. Saul could have got that guy out of that house for sure. And he probably will and Kim will be angry about it.

She is angry that Sauls skills are so effective when she just wishes that honesty and hard work would be effective.
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saul is 38 when BCS starts, one eps said that it was 7years from the time chuck bailed him out one last time (and then went to work hhm) to when their momma died and she said jimmy and fu to chuck, so we can say jimmy is maybe 28-31ish when chuck saves him, so jimmy spent at least 10years (going by chucks hatred of him and the cash register, maybe since he was born), being a crook.

he failed so many times that getting bailed out by chuck (legally) was a thing.

kim hasn't failed yet, by sheer luck and wearing nice heels and a cute pony tail, but when she does fail, it'll be harsh. she's just dabbling in being a criminal, saul was a straight up con man.
 
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Finally up to season 4 - I turned this off halfway through season 2 for months because the first two seasons of this shit are pretty mediocre (a lot of it is complete dogshit) but it definitely picks up in Season 3 and is really getting good.

If anyone else stopped like me, it's worth powering through.
 
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