Black Desert
- Thread starter Vepil
- Start date
-
Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
Kirun
Buzzfeed Editor
- 19,240
- 15,629
Elyon is literally just Tera 2 imo. Half the classes and even some of the areas are just straight ripoffs. Plus, isn't it only like 5 or 6 classes? And Unreal Engine 3?! ROFL, no thanks.
- 1
- 11,221
- 2,367
The game that might turn out good(or not) is Dungeon Fighter 2, or 3D or whatever they're calling it, but it's not coming out soon in Korea, so probably not for a very long time in the west. The combat looks more similar to Blade and Soul(less big skills, more emphasis on juggling/combos etc) and it's based on a very successful IP in Korea/China(DFO is a 2D side scrolling beat em up "mmo" that's really old, has like 60+ classes and shit, very fun game but different genre entirely). They've only started revealing it but the reveal videos looked really nice, although it might have a much bigger emphasis on dungeons/pvp than BDO. There's a new BDO on the way though iirc too. Crimson Desert or something?
Cinge
Ahn'Qiraj Raider
- 7,277
- 2,304
Isn't crimson desert mostly a single game just online? From what I have read and watched, its like a genshin impact. ALmost all single player with some multiplayer elements(example: 2-3 others join your world to do a dungeon or such, but once thats done its just you again in you again in your single player game).
Zindan
Bronze Baronet of the Realm
- 7,004
- 4,668
Raes
Vyemm Raider
- 3,264
- 2,720
It's not an mmo. It's a single player game "with multiplayer functionality", and you have a party of mercenary npcs, and I assume people can join your game as one of the mercs. It looks like it was originally planned to be an MMO, but either they decided not to cannibalize BDO's player base, or the updated graphics/combat made the client shit the bed with too many players on screen at one time. From one of the interviews it sounds like a pet project from the lead guy who thinks he's some kind of awesome storyteller, which would basically make him a unicorn amongst Korean developers. Basically, the studio that is light years ahead of other MMO's in graphics/animations, from a country that is notorious for terrible stories in games decides to make a single player story-driven game instead of a sequel. Clown world.
Gravel
Mr. Poopybutthole
- 39,447
- 129,864
Well shit, now you all have me doubting my choice of Lahn. I didn't go experimenting with other classes, I just jumped in.
I feel like it's a pretty crazy class though with good AOE clear, good gap closing, and high healing (not sure if other classes heal at all?).
I feel like it's a pretty crazy class though with good AOE clear, good gap closing, and high healing (not sure if other classes heal at all?).
Kirun
Buzzfeed Editor
- 19,240
- 15,629
Lahn is a totally solid class. Definitely stick with it if you enjoy her. But, if you're only a week or two of investment in, I'd definitely run through trial characters until you find one that feels perfect (I'm still searching - Hash is probably the closest so far and I fucking hate that I'm going to be forced into possibly going female to find a class I 100% enjoy. Sex based classes are easily my largest complaint about the game).
The big thing about this game is not getting too caught up in "the meta" or FOTM mindsets. It takes WAY too much investment in a character to think like that and while "rerolling" or swapping mains has been made a lot easier recently, you throw away a lot by hopping classes every time a patch changes the meta. Not to mention all the muscle memory that has to be rewired in a game like this.
As an example, I have a warrior who is Artisan 9 in almost every single lifeskill except farming and fishing (other chars do that because it's way easier/efficient to park an alt for those). Technically, a class like a Musa or Ninja is a way better lifeskiller because their movement is nuts (warrior isn't bad with their shift-f, Musa and ninja are just much more consistent). However, it'd probably take literal YEARS to offset the investment of leveling everything to artisan 9 again with slightly better movement skills.
Kirun
Buzzfeed Editor
- 19,240
- 15,629
Speaking of good cooking resources, this site is fantastic: Anbu Bdo
It'll let you know the most "efficient" items to cook from a cost standpoint, as well as alchemy. Plus, it also shows you the highest silver/CP nodes in the game, in case you don't know how to setup a worker empire or just aren't sure what to invest your CP into.
Uriel
Blackwing Lair Raider
- 1,783
- 2,197
Make sure you get those weapon swap coupons from the season server, they allow you to swap to another class pretty easily if you decide on another class later. You also have the option of tagging an alt with a copy of your mains gear for a price.
Zindan
Bronze Baronet of the Realm
- 7,004
- 4,668
Anbu is alright, but the Worker Empire info is kinda misleading and the CP cost is wrong on a several of the nodes that I've looked at. The daily profit is based on having Artisan Goblin workers feed throughout the day and being able to sell everything that day. It is good for giving someone an idea on what resources are valuable (kinda).
Re rolling isn't a big issue these days, especially with Seasons. You can also use the new Tag system that will copy the gear your main has to the Tagged character, but that can be pricey.
Kirun
Buzzfeed Editor
- 19,240
- 15,629
All the horse shit is pretty tedious and often leads nowhere. I was really excited about horse training because of how "afk friendly" it is, but once I deep dove it on YouTube and such? Yeah, it's all trash.
Just save up for a T8/9 and call it good. Skill is probably even more in need of an overhaul than trading, honestly.
Grim1
Ahn'Qiraj Raider
- 4,903
- 6,889
Unless they changed it in the last 6 months, the only thing that really matters in horse training is your training level. The typical crafting gear that increases mastery is almost useless for horse training. The mastery gear helps you level training faster so in that sense it's useful. But for a better chance of learning a new horse skill or movement speed then training level is king.
Training level really doesn't really help you until you start to get close to Master, which takes months of afk training.
And horse skill change coupons are one of the most p2w items in the game.
Training level really doesn't really help you until you start to get close to Master, which takes months of afk training.
And horse skill change coupons are one of the most p2w items in the game.
Kirun
Buzzfeed Editor
- 19,240
- 15,629
Yeah, pretty much everything surrounding horses is fucking dumb and very outdated - it's probably the most needed lifeskill overhaul. It's extremely RNG based (which, obviously a LOT of stuff in this game is), but unlike other RNG systems in BDO, there's really not a payoff with horse related stuff. That's why it's best to just wait for a T8 coupon from an event and then just save up to buy your Dream Horse. The RNG surrounding dream horse is horrific.
Besides, aren't T8s just as quick as Dream Horses, just without the special skills that they get?
B_Mizzle
Golden Baronet of the Realm
- 7,751
- 15,323
Have to second that, been dicking around for about a month on this game, and as far as content/stuff to do, no game can even compare. I've got about 75 active hours in and I haven't evenn scratched the surface. The only thing it seems to be lacking is dungeons? Not sure why they haven't added those. The raiding scene is meh but doesn't take any investment, just show up when the boss spawns and try not to die.
Kirun
Buzzfeed Editor
- 19,240
- 15,629
They've already announced that dungeons are "coming", but they honestly just sound like glorified grinding spots. Then again, that's basically what a dungeon is supposed to be, I guess - at least if we're going by standards "established" by EQ.
Uriel
Blackwing Lair Raider
- 1,783
- 2,197