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Gravel

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restless_sl said:
Its a really good guide. the only problem is it hasnt been updated for the new region yet, so theres some extra stuff not on the list that drops there you might want to keep.

edit: I think only your post is out of date actually lanx, my bad.
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Yeah, I saw that guide not too long ago. My concern is that for a lot of the new stuff, you actually need a lot of those lower items. And it sucks going back to farm them. An example is I'm farming the shit out of the random crap for Sol Creators, which is all throwaway according to that. I'd imagine by the time the stuff for Malice Jewels is out, you'll need almost all of it.

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Well the larger table does note what may still be used for a particular sphere, just that it isn't a 'rare' drop and can be easily farmed. So yeah, the small one is a little wrong, but the larger breakdown can be more accurate or allow you to better plan.
 
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Think I just spent near 100 energy spamming Start of Adventure for honor, almost up to 300 honor summons... can't wait till they put burst frog/crystals in there.. and all the fodder is great with the fusion rate up atm.. got quite a few Super Success on fodder fuses.
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restless_sl said:
The most common arena team at the moment is the 2 turn/bb one you describe(its what i run). But if you really push the damage on heavy hitters with stacked Attack using Amanohabaken/leader you can get kills on the first turn; that really secures a win. When sphere frogs are more numerous arena teams will have double spheres, and with a bc creating 2nd sphere you might not need the extra drops from the bc producing stat spheres to achieve 2nd round bb as well. I dont think its quite come into its own yet, but i think with more sphere frogs they will be used more often. Probably a mix of both is good in any case. I use a lex in arena now too.
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Yeah my everything team has dual spheres on zel, melc, elza, and darv. Don't recall why I put one on melc but I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time haha. Think it was for a sol and HP sphere due to his crazy low HP but high drop check. Poor guys days are numbered too as I'm replacing SGX with Maxwell after I level her and Melc is going away for Lucina unless I need him for status immune.

Killing units with regular attacks in arena is what I would prefer to do but when I ran that type of team my retards would gang bang one guy and I'd end up getting BB'd for a loss 1/20 times or so. With BB spam arena if say I only fire 0/1 BBs then chances are at least half their team is dead and I can take the return BB's if darv fired or if I have a strong unit for the element.
 
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restless_sl said:
The most common arena team at the moment is the 2 turn/bb one you describe(its what i run). But if you really push the damage on heavy hitters with stacked Attack using Amanohabaken/leader you can get kills on the first turn; that really secures a win. When sphere frogs are more numerous arena teams will have double spheres, and with a bc creating 2nd sphere you might not need the extra drops from the bc producing stat spheres to achieve 2nd round bb as well. I dont think its quite come into its own yet, but i think with more sphere frogs they will be used more often. Probably a mix of both is good in any case. I use a lex in arena now too.
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The halloween spheres and lexida are actually stronger than amanohabaken I think - even in terms of pure damage if you are using a damage up leader it compares pretty well.

Assuming a leader like Dia or Lodin Amanohabaken iwould be 225% hits for your normal hit ( 100% + 50% for Dia + 75% for amano ) at 30% chance of 150% crit, or 326% damage.

The weak halloween sphere is 50% for the extra hits so you get 150% hits for the normal hit and 100% for the second hit, at a 10% chance to crit for 150%, or 287.5% damage.

The strong one is 75% for extra hits, so 316%

Lexida is 100% for extra hits, so 345%
 
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Thengel_sl said:
I would say he's definitely on par with Vargas/Selena dungeons. He hits HARD. You simply went in with a team that would also one round the Vargas/Selena dungeons, what did you expect?
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As far as I can tell, he has maybe 1/4 of the hp that selena has. It was the diff between the hp bar vanishing right up and seeing lots of hits on his empty body, and seeing the health bar gradually going down and just making it to zero before the attacks stopped.

I was mostly surprised at the trash, was expecting nasty stuff like the gaia dungeons, with opposing element guys to mess up mono color teams and crazy damage to make building BB hard.
 
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velk_sl said:
The halloween spheres and lexida are actually stronger than amanohabaken I think - even in terms of pure damage if you are using a damage up leader it compares pretty well.

Assuming a leader like Dia or Lodin Amanohabaken iwould be 225% hits for your normal hit ( 100% + 50% for Dia + 75% for amano ) at 30% chance of 150% crit, or 326% damage.

The weak halloween sphere is 50% for the extra hits so you get 150% hits for the normal hit and 100% for the second hit, at a 10% chance to crit for 150%, or 287.5% damage.

The strong one is 75% for extra hits, so 316%

Lexida is 100% for extra hits, so 345%
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If I'm reading you right that's wrong. Weak sphere is normal hits at base damage, extra hits at 50% of base. For 150% of total base damage. Strong is 75% of base for 175% damage total. Lexida has no reduction making it 200% of base.

Reed dungeon is very weak comparatively. Tossed a team of mid level maxwell lead with 5* Lucina, 6* mari in their 50's /w full maxxed Signas and SGX at him using a maxwell friend and 1 rounded him before half my animations played out. I'll probably run him another time or two and see if single maxwell is enough to do the same without items but I think it is. BB levels on everyone but friend and Signas were BB3 or lower.
 
Daidraco

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Super defensive water team fel/oulu/elimo/rad/sig and some shitty water friend. Lord reed. Waiting for 6 star on all these units. They're suppose to be hot shit.

Water Gaia dungeon though? I'm going to have to try level 3 again tomorrow. Was raped first group. Though, I just spent 8 gems and all my keys power leveling them though, so they don't have any super brave bursts yet.
 
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So 1x Oracle, 1x Guardian, 2x Breaker Reeds so far, want an Anima, but I guess Breaker would suffice, maybe a Lord would be cool. Dunno how much more energy I want to spend farming this guy lol.
 
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Have there been 6* forms for the new vortex units announced anywhere? Because, as a 5*, all they really serve is to be a collector's item/inventory sucker.
 
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MossyBank_sl said:
Yeah they were announced sometime back by Alim, so they will probably be something more than just trophy units.
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Thank you.

I am usually on top of stuff for this game, but real life has hammered me hard for the last few weeks, so I have not been able to keep up on what is going on.
 
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So every time I try to start the water section in the final quest area, I get a black screen when it loads the cut scene and the game crashes and will not load until I restore it from a backup. I may be the frankenbuild of Android 5.0 that I'm on, but I'm wondering if it might just be an incompatibility with ART. I'll have to do some more testing to see what the problem is, but I was wondering if anyone else ran in to a similar problem, especially if they're running ART on 4.4.
 
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Taloo_sl said:
If I'm reading you right that's wrong. Weak sphere is normal hits at base damage, extra hits at 50% of base. For 150% of total base damage. Strong is 75% of base for 175% damage total. Lexida has no reduction making it 200% of base.
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The key part there was 'if you are using a damage up leader' i.e. 50% from dia, lodin, etc. The negative to atk from the orbs stacks additively with other atk buffs, like leader skills. If you are leading with zelnite or elza or someone then it's much more in favor of the amanohabaken.
 
Gravel

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Does anyone have a favorite dungeon to run for healer fodder? I've been doing Puppeteer of the Trees (Mistral, Forest dungeon 2) which seems to drop about 60% support, 20% attack, and 20% healer. My support units (Exvehl and Oulu) are both just about maxed, so I'm looking for something that just drops healers. I'd like to get my Elimo SBB unlocked today so I can run the Reed dungeon.

Something that drops healers/attack would be ok too if it's predominately healers, since about 95% of the units in this game are attack BB's.
 
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Did Reed this morning with my Lilly, Darvan, Signas, Ulkina, Zelinte, Maxwell (Friend) team. It was about 50% easier than the GGC Vargas dungeon I thought. So really I'd say if you're at all close to finishing that one Reed shouldn't be a problem. I'm hardly good at this game and pretty much only know how to activate my Darv each round for defensive. Just try to single target Reed or as someone pointed out earlier he goes batshit once his pet dog dies. Captured Anima Reed.

Not sure Elurin, Reddit says that Morgan -- Nocturnal Forest -- Thief of the Forest (Fairies and Claris) is for Healers, as well as Morgan -- Nocturnal Forest -- Earth Shattering Spear (Fairies and Claris). When they release Ulkina 6* I'll need to hit those up.

Need 11 Dragon Mimic and 4 Metal Mimic today, so GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!
 
Ishad

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Got anima Rhein. Didn't have an elemental weakness team so I did it grind style: exhvel leader, oulu, dilma, zelnite, arius subs and a lily friend.
 
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I got wrecked. Velk (pretty sure it was Velk), she one shot your Maxwell. Next round she killed half my team even with a 50% mitigation buff up. Going to have to rethink my approach here.
 
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Rhein? Yeah that team I used for Reed was not effective here. But I attribute that to my healer and defensive unit being Fire type, lol.
 
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