Brave Frontier

Getting kind of annoyed divine summon isn't a default. Did 10 summons on the mitigator rates and got 9 red doors. Of course I didn't get a Laberd or drevas.

Actually I had X3 pretty close to dead on my 2nd try. I didn't understand the fight fully and had brought Griff & Michelle (fire) and even though it doesn't show a buff that fucking Fei must have a damage shield/reflect of some sort so their weakness to her being fire basically 1 shot both them when i was trying to burn the last Fei down (i also missed timed mitigration for that round so i lost my another and didnt have any rez material so was going with no rez like a moron!).

That being said, I wanted to deepen my pool so i went after Chrome. First pick fucking got Tridon so was pretty stoked since i use him as a friend 90% of the time for hard fights since that shield is a life savior plus friend LS is solid. Now that free's up Avani/Avant etc for more damage since i don't have them. Took me 10 pulls but got Chrome on my last try so i was stoked. Also go Rahgag which i read is good arena but i have other plans!

So my new dream team in my head i want to work towards

(working towards as in when i have the full cost but good to have a target in mind!)
Chrome (leader) - Mass spark damage and dark damage increase
Hadaron - Mass single target (seems like blowing up individual units has its advantages in alot of the hard fights or they are single target anyway) Also has high hit count
Laberd - Awesome mitigtation, good BB fill and defense add plus damage is solid (leverages chrome dark damge increase as well)
Michelle - ?? Good hit count for sparks, attack buff for raw damage, crit rate for haradon single target bombs, and ES i "think" makes her damage dark (?) so it would get buffed by Chrome as well

So that leaves me 1 crucial spot that needs to cover status null or cleanse at least + some form of heals/shield. I was thining Krantz as he is durable, has cleanse and heal (i can put null status sphere on him) and allows me to 99.9% of the time have a migitation buff up in the rare case Laberd doesn't have it up. I know its redundacy but with heal+status clense he does most of what Emilo does for me plus actually does damage and adds dark/light to people who don't have on attack so they benefit from dark buff as well. At the bottom is a list of most my relevent people. Alternatively I could go Tridon as my 5th as shield plus his HoT is probably enough but that leaves me open to status effects so i'd have to change one of the above people (Michelle?) to some one with status null/cleanse.

Friends wise if the content is hard probably focus on Tridon if available since that shield is just so powerful. If i include him on my team then that frees up some of the top end damage dealer friends that would probably supplement Chrome spark. Also with at least 3 of the team being dark this lets me run some dark buff items that give some additional value.

Appreciate any thoughts you have!

Fire
Vargas
Michelle
Griff
Phoenix
Lancia
Lorland
Homsubi
Vishra
Farlon
Ramna
Dia
Ulkina
Vanberk
Regrard
Adel
Cayena
Blaze
Nick


Water
Elimo
Vernil
Sergio
Loch Ness/Malnaplis
Mega
Dean
Karl
Tiara
Tesla
Reeze
Sigmas
Raydon
Eve
Rigness
Rubeus
Savia
Farzen
Jack
Tridon

Earth
Douglas
Dilma
Libera
Dolk
Altro
Leore
Edea
Mina
Zelban
Golem
Luly
Ophelia
Darvan
Faris
Lucca
Oguro
Dion
Cyan

Thunder
Loch
Elulu
Amy
Lodin
Kushra
Rashil
Rina
Grybe
Bran
Garnan
Rowgen
Orna
Bargus
Belzeft
Zoldark
Rahgan

Light
Heidt
Bahamat
Duelmex
Aem
Sefia
Melchio
Lubradine
Lilith
Sodis
Alyut
Azael
Narza
Maxwell
Yujeh
Elmedia
Kira
Krantz
Folg
Eva

Dark
Alice
Kikuri
Lira
Laberd
Leima
Duel GX
Logan
Lunaris
Grahdens
Zephyr
Eric
Cardes
KajahElza
Kuda
Ardin
Varfed
Yuura
Charis
Rugrow
Chrome
Semira
Hadaron

Took me about all my resources but got Chrome to lvl 120, 7 star and UBB enabled. Just need to find a GCC or reward that gives me a sphere frog and he will be ready to rock!

Honestly my opinion is that Tridon is a near required unit for the hardest content. His shield buff is unique to him, and it's the only reason I'm able to beat the RC 5+ stuff that spams aoe's which bring my team down to like 20% life (with tridon's shield up). I don't have him myself, but a guy on my friend list has a maxed tridon with good items. Good thing there's no cooldown to bring friends to raid fights cuz yeah he goes with me every round.

Farzen, tridon, Dolk, krantz, Rahgan and Savia should be priority units for leveling.

For legend stones pick one of melchio or reeze for your status cleanse. Ramna, Lilith, elza are getting released this month and are great.

Thanks! Any thoughts on my question for my Chrome team? Not sure if Michelle is a good fit or if Krantz is good enough for heals+status to cover that role as most content has status of some sort to deal with. I'd love to put a darkie in there to pair with Chrome dark damage + use of the dark def/attack item buffs but they don't seem to have very solid darkie status folks.

Ishad sorry what are legend stones? Still a noob in many senses.

Turbo_sl said:

Ishad sorry what are legend stones? Still a noob in many senses.

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Some units require them to evolve to 7*. You just buy them with achievement points in the store. They're I think 8000 points each? Be sure you accept all 5 daily quests for the points each day before you do your grinding.

Sinzar_sl said:

Some units require them to evolve to 7*. You just buy them with achievement points in the store. They're I think 8000 points each? Be sure you accept all 5 daily quests for the points each day before you do your grinding.

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Oh duh sorry, yes i have 2 saved up at this point. I have most the core I want to work with 7 star at this point except hadaron (waiting for thursday to get evo piece) so i should be good short term depending on who I try to round out my Chrome team with. I have a second hadaron i pulled today....since most his abilities are self buffs, i wonder if running 2 of them on my chrome team is viable? Single target damage would be insane anyways right? Anything that has given me a challenge at all up to this point usually are single target or duo target fights anyway. Or is 2 hadaron's just limiting my team buffs to much?

Actually thinking about it; Michelle might not be a good fit. Hadaron who is alot of single target damage buffs himself for both attack and crit rate off his SBB so Michelle's SBB buff won't be useful to him. Maybe Chrome, Hadaron X 2, Krantz, Larberd would be better!

(Or do i look at a Charis instead, fits dark theme for item buffs + chrome damage buff, adds +1 hit count and adds BC/HC rates etc). Does the +1 hit count mean for each hit they hit +1 so someone with 8 is 16 now or just 9?)

Fuck me! So many options; ok up to level 126 so light is at the end of the tunnel to start putting together semi synergistic teams and i've spent alot of time reading through mechanics on additive vs multipler damage formula etc. So without out further delay, below are my 2 options! And god damnit i'm focusing on one of the two so any input would be great (will be expanding to be flexible as time progresses obviously but as a core team that can get me through alot of various stuff)

TEAM 1
Avant - Leader; BB buff damage, crit buffs, more BB buff and attack buff as well as spark vulnerability
Charla - Coming up tomorrow and I WILL get her as she solves 90% of all my team issues. Highest crit damgae buff, plethora of BB regain options, heals, and status cleanse. Literially does everything, what an OP person
Laberd - Mitigation, BB gain on damage, def buff (redundant), chance to reduce attack of enemey, and ES for additional BB regain for himself (think its self only?) which helps ensure mitigation is up always
Hadaron - Unfortunately redudant on def & crit hit chance but he is on the team to destory single targets period, benefits from spark+BB + crit buffs from team and i believe will destoy all
Fill - I'm abit torn on this one, until i have the team all fielded i'm not sure where i will sit with regards to BB generation which is extremely important to keep Hadaron in action especially with the sounds of later end game reducing BB gen. I have a variety of ways i can go with this (Chrome for more spark damage and dark damage buff on 3 of the 5, Griff for 2 ele buff as well as BB fill reduction which i'm missing on the team but he adds alot of redundancy on ES crit chance, crit buff). Also could go Tridon who i plan on using mainly as a friend for his LS + awesome kit across the board but if i have him on my team that will free up a spot for one of the coveted people i don't have)
Friend - Tridon unless i put him in as fill

Main advantages above it covers literally almost every core skill set of value and only is missing a few fluff ones that when you dig into the numbers are basically useless. Damage while being crit focus still has both LS & BB boosts to BB damage (300% total), Spark buff, as well as the crit rate/crit damage so even with a variety of resists on end game bosses it covers basically all situations well. If i got Chrome i "think" that 75% damage for my 3 dark units is a flat multipler isn't it? It doesn't say weakness in the description so I don't think it applies to the ele weakness multipler and is just flat . Regardless of that fill spot i should have solid BB gen and with Tridon as a friend i am covered for surviability combined with Labred and Charla's HoT and insta heal. THE ONLY WEAKNESS i can honestly see with this team setup is no elemental attack skills which from reading abusing ele weakness is one of the top core increases to damage. If i got Griff I do add 2 ele's to the table plus better BB fill but still....am i gimping my end game capability with limited/no weakness applications

TEAM 2 - ELE WEAKNESS + Crit
Leader - Griff (Crit buff + BB gauge fill on Crit damage and attack buff on LS; adds 2 elements, and BB fill with redudant crit damge and crit hit with charla)
Libera - 2 ele buff, HC/BC increase, BB fill on damage taken, redudant def buff, attack buff based off Rec. Nothing special but fills the void on improving BB fill and gives us the 2 eles
Kantz - Provides dark/light ele attack, mitigtation, and semi redundancy with extra heals and cleanse but you its good not to have 2 options on heal depending if charla is SBB'ing
Charla - Same as above, spark damage, heals, HoTs, Crit damage/rate, jfc OP!
Hadaron - The benefactor of all the above, solid buffs to most key damage contriubtors and most importantly full spectrum of elemental attacks so he will always have that modifer on his insane damage.
Friend - Tridon; 100% no exceptions for any hard content due to LS + shield

Pro's: Ele weakness modifer depending on situation is the highest contriubting damage modifer it sounds like late game so the entire team gains significant value without having to try and swap out 1 person for specific fights against certain ele's (i do have that ability with my existing 7 stars which i could technically do on team 1 with my fill position I guess but there are plenty of multi target fights with different eles). Just about the best possible BB generation team you can field with almost every single means of BB gen covered (has griff's flat BB fill reduction + crit damage BB fill over TEAM 1). Flexiability with 2 heals/cleanses is good to

Con's: Missing a BB damage buff, 300% from the above team unfortunately and missing a BB based attack buff compared to the above team 1. Some unavoidable redundancy on both teams but its limited all things considered.

I guess main question is will the better BB and ele attack application buffs out weigh the loss of the mass BB damage buff & attack from team 1 plus whatever benefit my fill provides? Both teams will take some retooling for me and frog spheres and BB skill buffs are scarce so I need to finalize a course and head that way. Charla coming out tomorrow opened all of this up for me thus the change in direction. Any thoughts from you theroy crafters is always appreciated!

Also my account is 5985539078 if anyone wants to add me, let me know what leader you want. I have 7* with ult on Chrome, Laberd, Libera, Griff, Michelle, Elimo, and soon to be Krantz/Avant/Charla/tridon/hadaron pending prioritys from direction i go.


Edit - Think i found my fill eventually if i go team 1; Lucius doesn't hardly have any redudancy, adds %HP, adds attack via convert of HP, and ES negates crit and ele damage (assuming self only?). Also adds bb fill on bb/sbb + gets me my missing fill rate (40% to boot!). Team 1 covers everything possible basically outside of the ele damage attack application ....is that enough?

I have and love Charla, but my best units tend to be the ones she clashes with. If I use her I can't use Chrome or Avani. The former simply has one of the best leads in the game and the latter has like 8k attack and a 35 hit sbb and a much better spark buff.

Since i don't have Avani i don't have that issue Any thoughts on my team 1 v 2 since you seem like you have some good experience Still abit off from fielding but i think both give me a great core group to do a variety of hard content while i expand my roster/evo's. I've literally spent like 6 hours reading through data analysis and mechanic posts trying to learn everything i can but one thing i'm still miffed on and can't find an answer to is "does Chrome's +75% to dark damage apply to all innate dark units damage across the board OR does it add an additional .75 to the damage multipler ONLY when attacking light (when applying weakness to ele). Makes a difference for me since i'm fairly heavy dark damage; if its flat all dark damage then he is a strong contender for a sub in team 1 as my 5th even though he clashes with Charla some. He still adds spark vuln and more consistent spark buff uptime and spark ES so if that combines with a 75% increase to him/hadaron/Laberd might be worthwhile.

Turbo_sl said:

Since i don't have Avani i don't have that issue

Any thoughts on my team 1 v 2 since you seem like you have some good experience

Still abit off from fielding but i think both give me a great core group to do a variety of hard content while i expand my roster/evo's. I've literally spent like 6 hours reading through data analysis and mechanic posts trying to learn everything i can but one thing i'm still miffed on and can't find an answer to is "does Chrome's +75% to dark damage apply to all innate dark units damage across the board OR does it add an additional .75 to the damage multipler ONLY when attacking light (when applying weakness to ele). Makes a difference for me since i'm fairly heavy dark damage; if its flat all dark damage then he is a strong contender for a sub in team 1 as my 5th even though he clashes with Charla some. He still adds spark vuln and more consistent spark buff uptime and spark ES so if that combines with a 75% increase to him/hadaron/Laberd might be worthwhile.

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I'm at work so I'll be brief, and I'll also preface that Ishad (not volunteering him) is the true squad guru around here. He keeps up with the meta and consistently blows me away with what he knows about the game, whereas I wait until I summon a unit, look that unit up and then see what fits where.

First squad looks mostly fine to me, but let me know how well Charla works with Hardon. You've got a unit that doesn't generate and bc and a unit who generates bc from hitting only one target, and neither your lead nor your prospective friend lead help with filling gauges. For that squad you badly want Haile, preferably as a friend lead but she will work as a sub too. I also find Tridon works better as a sub because he just doesn't add enough for spam or damage as a lead. To give you an idea of what you'll be shooting for for [most[/I] encounters, Ishad told me that Haile and Korzan leads -- best-in-class BB damage and great crit damage leads - was toodefensive. Avant obviously is fine, but definitely don't do Tridon as friend. Shitty for damage and I've always found somebody like Gazia better for trials. For filler, you really want some high hitcounts for sparking with an Avant lead because Charla and Hadaron are doing you no favors. You're right that Lucius would work wonders.

Team 2: I used a similar squad (Chrome, Griff/Hadaron, Libera, Krantz, Aurelia) for a while and it worked really well. Looks fine to me, but again I'd consider somebody other than Tridon. Also, Ciara adds all four elemental modifiers if you have her, so she + Krantz complete the suite. I might consider running a Chrome or Avant lead, subbing Griff and removing Charla. The fact that you have Chrome and aren't using him makes me sad. Although the fact that I have Charla and am not using her makes me sad.

Thanks! Alas no Ciara. I'm leary to get Tridon out of the mix as it seemed even in some of the mid level GGC & Trial's that damage burst can be ass raping especially with me not carrying a full 7 star squad yet so that extra buffer saved my ass. I'm curious to see BB fill on team 1 though, i have every form of BB gain buff in the game minus BB fill %, i understand the single target and low hit count but with Laberd in the mix for on attack BB was hoping i'd stay fairly ahead, also Tridon gives increase BC drop rate so help in that arena.

I want to use Chrome but I desperately need Charla as i have no hybrid support/heals/buff available so it mainly boils down to does Chrom's % dark damage apply to all innate dark damage characters or does it only apply when hitting a light unit? Damned if i can't find an answer hah.

I'm pretty sure it applies to all characers, but I'm not sure. I don't actually have a healer atm.

And by all means use Tridon. He's one of the bes units in the game. I've just never liked him as lead.