Breaking Bad
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Lanx
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walt had a "hand in" killing jane, she was on her way to death anyway, no one feels bad when a druggie dies. Just like when tony soprano was in a car crash with chris, hell tony loved chris like walt loves jessie, but chris was so messed up on drugs and he was gonna die anyway(maybe) tony just helped him along.
it's time for big moves, and this was the last big move walt makes (hiding money), the king is stepping down and the queen is taking over, i kinda never liked skylar like most ppl, but she was stone cold... to her sister of 30ish years, to her brother-in-law of 10/15ish years, who is a trained interrogator. She knew that if he had the chance, he'd break her down, not because he wanted to, but because she was in the way of him getting walt, she saw hank like a pitbull on a sausage and he wouldn't let go even if shot in the head... only hank never even touched the sausage, he just knew there was "a sausage" somewhere in the backyard and skylar was the only way he'd find it.
remember skylars just a waitress/bookkeeper/mother, and she was "nicely interrogated by someone who basically loves her by proxy(of marie). would he really do anything to protect her(by proxy of marie) or does he just see walt at the end of the stick? this is all going through skylar's head and she said, fck this... and asked the most told advice we all see on youtube "AM I UNDER ARREST?"
now skylar is in control of everything, hell it'd be cool if she wrangled up jessie and hank and said "walt you HAVE to do it!"
i think walt would actually kill hank b4 he kills jessie.
the worst story as always is jessie, goddamn every other season he's a meth induced emo.
it's time for big moves, and this was the last big move walt makes (hiding money), the king is stepping down and the queen is taking over, i kinda never liked skylar like most ppl, but she was stone cold... to her sister of 30ish years, to her brother-in-law of 10/15ish years, who is a trained interrogator. She knew that if he had the chance, he'd break her down, not because he wanted to, but because she was in the way of him getting walt, she saw hank like a pitbull on a sausage and he wouldn't let go even if shot in the head... only hank never even touched the sausage, he just knew there was "a sausage" somewhere in the backyard and skylar was the only way he'd find it.
remember skylars just a waitress/bookkeeper/mother, and she was "nicely interrogated by someone who basically loves her by proxy(of marie). would he really do anything to protect her(by proxy of marie) or does he just see walt at the end of the stick? this is all going through skylar's head and she said, fck this... and asked the most told advice we all see on youtube "AM I UNDER ARREST?"
now skylar is in control of everything, hell it'd be cool if she wrangled up jessie and hank and said "walt you HAVE to do it!"
i think walt would actually kill hank b4 he kills jessie.
the worst story as always is jessie, goddamn every other season he's a meth induced emo.
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So what was the point of showing the crappy meth guys get shot up and taken over by Todd and uncles? They are taking over obviously, but they wouldn't have shown that scene unless it is some tool in the story. It's just not valuable enough on it's own to justify taking up show time. So either they are going to get Walt back cooking, or the other end of the guys they shot up, are going to come back, and maybe think it was Heisenberg who shot their crew up, and take out his family? Maybe that's why Heisenberg was painted on his wall? I mean who else alive, besides Hank, knows he is Heisenberg? Hank and fam, Saul and crew, Todd's uncle crew, and Lydia. And I doubt Hank or fam is going to graffiti up Walt's house. It seems like Walt left a big loose end with Lydia/Todd, and it really feels like the actions tonight were foreshadowing something big coming from that direction.
Chukzombi
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my guess is the Heisenberg sign is what drives walts family out of their house. maybe it was left as an intimidation to walt that they know where he lives and they can get to his family if he doesnt start cooking for Lydia and the Aryan Brotherhood or whatever they are again. im sure gilligan has a better way of presenting that aspect but for right now i think thats where i think this is all going. i also think hank is going to see that lottery ticket, somehow guess they are coordinates. go to that spot and find an empty hole either due to walt or skylar going back for it or erudin and white trash dude snagging that cash from walt because they followed him somehow. or it gets tossed in the trash by some ironic bit of humor and the location is lost forever,
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You're mixing two separate times up. When he broke into the house for the meth it was daytime and before they got the money from Gus. That's the money Walt didn't want to give Jesse until he cleaned himself up and Jane ended up blackmailing Walt for. It wasn't until he had the drink with Jane's dad who mentioned something about not giving up on family that made Walt go back and try and make amends with Jesse. That time was the middle of the night and he was just trying to wake Jesse up when Jane got rolled onto her back. So while she probably would have survived if he hadn't done that, there's no way he could have known that trying to wake up Jesse would lead to Jane's death.
As for tonight's episode I pretty much agree with everyone else, except for whoever said the baby should have died in the sister fight. That person needs help.
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Sheesh, Marie's kleptomania really knows no bounds. I mean, jewelry and knickknacks are one thing, but a baby?
It's really hard to know what Jesse will do at this point. It's obvious he feels incredibly guilty with what he's involved in and wants nothing more to do with it, but does he go so far to those ends that he throws Walt under the bus? I think that's too easy of an out for both him and the writers. I'm not sure if Jesse feels allegiance to Walt anymore, but he's certainly scared of him. Jesse may feel like shit for what he's done, but I don't think he wants to die. And also, considering Jesse's history with him, Hank is probably the last person he'd confess to.
I'm enjoying Lydia as a break from the typical antagonists we've had in the show. The people that have gone up against Walt in the past have mostly been either extremely meticulous, violent, or vengeful. Lydia may have a vested interest in the meth business and is willing to take extreme actions to protect it, but the fact that she's just a mousy middleman who isn't willing to get her own hands dirty has the potential to make her quite unpredictable (particularly since she has now gotten into bed with the New Mexico Nazis), and I think that is going to end up being something Walt underestimates.
Nope. Walt shakes Jessie to try and wake him up, Jessie being shaken has Jane roll onto her back. Time passes and she vomits and chokes.
The instruction of how to properly lay on your side was shown by Jane to Jessie and sort of shown between Walt and Marie when Walt rolled up a towel for his baby. Marie responded about some company having a "proper" one.
I still hate can't stand Marie and Skyler. Rewatching the series with the girlfriend now... uggg.
iannis
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See now, Seasons 2-4 would have been so very fucking much better if they had made Skylar the reluctant woman behind the man. Rather than this "oh yeah, it's the last few episodes, I guess we can finally make skylar stop being so horrible and uninteresting". They couldn't have done it in season 1, but they could have started it in season 2 along with Jesse, and by S3 at the latest Skylar's character would have been worth watching. And it would have made Walt better too. He wouldn't have had to have been so deus-ex-machina flawless "I planned that all along!" all the time if he had a wife to bounce (even veiled) strategy off with.
It would have cost the "I am the one who knocks" speech, but one decent scene for far too many to count fast-forward scenes would have been a very acceptable tradeoff.
They missed it. They could have made her a smart frontier justice version of Carmella.
It would have cost the "I am the one who knocks" speech, but one decent scene for far too many to count fast-forward scenes would have been a very acceptable tradeoff.
They missed it. They could have made her a smart frontier justice version of Carmella.
Xarpolis
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I'd like to suggest an interesting movie for you. Arlington Road. Has to do with inner-country Terrorism. Great movie, and has to do with your post.
Xarpolis
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The way I looked at the beginning of this season is that suddenly EVERYONE knows that Walt = Heisenberg. The kids skate boarding in his pool are just to feel tough for hanging out in a drug king pin's yard.
So chances are there was a huge DEA raid on his house and Walt wasn't there or somehow gets away without being caught.
The news does a report on the raid "be on the lookout for Walter White who goes by the nickname Heisenberg." All that good stuff.
The house is foreclosed on by the government due to the drug ties, and the kids break into his house and spray paint Heisenberg on the wall as kind of a dumb thing kids do. Those same kids are the ones in his pool.
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Chukzombi
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I think thats the obvious ploy. This show has great writers and we are getting faked out to believe that the DEA landed on walts house. It could easily be walts house was attacked by those white power guys
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i also am beginning to think Hank wont ever tell the DEA about Walt, one because Walt got inside his head and put the idea that he has only a few months left and there would be no point in arresting him especially since he knows that doing so would ruin his career.
even crazier theory, i think jesse is going to give hank some insight into walt that he isnt a "monster" and when the white power guys do attack walt's house walt runs over to hank for protection and they make up and hank makes a deal with walt that he skips town and they keep the kids over there. the neighbor lady hears the attack on walts place and assumes that walt is dead and she sees him again months later she is all WTF and drops her produce.
edit for crazy theory
i also am beginning to think Hank wont ever tell the DEA about Walt, one because Walt got inside his head and put the idea that he has only a few months left and there would be no point in arresting him especially since he knows that doing so would ruin his career.
even crazier theory, i think jesse is going to give hank some insight into walt that he isnt a "monster" and when the white power guys do attack walt's house walt runs over to hank for protection and they make up and hank makes a deal with walt that he skips town and they keep the kids over there. the neighbor lady hears the attack on walts place and assumes that walt is dead and she sees him again months later she is all WTF and drops her produce.
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Yep, but Skylar as a character was sacrificed to be, essentially, a one dimensional plot device for Walt's rise. She was used to exploit our investment in Walt for being the guy who broke down the system that essentially suffocated the "every man". Her role was the overbearing, unconscionably difficult (To the point of being a caricature) wife--For example, in Season 1, when he is DYING of cancer, rather than letting him smoke a joint, she goes nuts and seeks out Jessie to put an end to it--completely disregarding any input Walt might have, even at the end of his life, even something as simple as temporary pain relief from some pot (A simple vice.) Obviously the ultimate was Walt wishing to die, and even that being denied by Skylar. She was used to enforce those feelings that Walt was powerless, weak and suffering in the most personal aspects of his life.
Combine that with his soul crushing work, pandering to teenagers who aren't worth anything compared to his genius but somehow society has forced him to serve them, and, what's worse, they have access to more resources (Wealth) and probably have a brighter future than he does (The teenager with the brand new car who couldn't pass basic chemistry but forced Walter to wash a vehicle Walter could never afford.) and you have a lot of tools being used to make us sympathize with someone who would want to bring the whole system down. Because, after all, it resonates very closely with a lot of modern, very educated, "Generation X/Y" people--who are usuallywayunderemployed for their education/skill level.
And that's what Skylar was, at least until midway through Season 3. Just a tool. There is no way a real person would act like that much of a shrew, or be so one dimensional in her suffocating attitude. After season 3 though, she began to feel like a real person. She actually thought about actions, treated Walter like an equal, and made some pretty rational choices. But yeah, at the start of the show? She was VERY shallow, completely one dimensional. She's a far better character now, but I suppose her earlier incarnation did achieve what Gilligan wanted, she helped spawn a monster (Heisenberg) that we could actually sympathize with, heck, that we cheered for, again because she, combined with society, created a place that we wanted to watch a monster destroy.
Also. I wonder how many people started rooting for Walt again after that scene on the bathroom floor. When he accepted his own demise, if it meant his family would be cared for. I was glad they showed that, the fact that Walter White still exists deep down in the monster that is Heisenberg.