Captain Marvel (2019)

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From what you described so far i would say she should have been helping Dare Devil and Luke Cage instead of being inflated to the movie hero status so she can carry the MCU after Endgame. I did not grow up with super hero comics so maybe this isnt saying much but i never heard of her character until i was neck deep in the MCU. How is she supposed to be this huge thing leading the charge after the current crop is finished. IM, Thor or Captain America leave some pretty big shoes to fill and i dont think she has the presence or fame to fill them.

Doesn't make sense from an in universe perspective she is one of if not the most powerful Marvel heroes.

Again the movie and the actors where fine, it was a middle of the road marvel movie better than Black Panther for sure.
 
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so the worst part of this movie is Captain Marvel? thats BAD. no kids in the theater? for the toy industry thats really BAD.

People don't bring kids to a 10/midnight showing of a marvel movie on a school night you ignorant ape.

Jesus Christ Chuk get it together.
 
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I wasn't ready for the ugly cry bomb they planted in the first 10 seconds.

Really enjoyed it, nice lull between these big Avengers finale-style movies.

Yeah, the opening really added a lot of context to the Stan Lee tweet about the movie. It was still a dumb tweet, but it makes much more sense now.
 

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Further more, people like Brie Larson are given this platform to spout their inane nonsense because the backlash of the people that fight back. If Brie stands there swinging at the air, and everyone just stared for a moment then turned around and walked away, she would look like a fool. By fighting with her, you are validating what she stands for.

The only thing that matters is money... UNLESS, you make it about more than just money. You retards are making it about social justice nonsense. So even if it is a shit movie that fails, Brie and Disney have a prime excuse. You.

Good job, morons.

It's fucking hilarious that the guy advocating doing nothing chose "Fight" as his nickname here.
 
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From what you described so far i would say she should have been helping Dare Devil and Luke Cage instead of being inflated to the movie hero status so she can carry the MCU after Endgame. I did not grow up with super hero comics so maybe this isnt saying much but i never heard of her character until i was neck deep in the MCU. How is she supposed to be this huge thing leading the charge after the current crop is finished. IM, Thor or Captain America leave some pretty big shoes to fill and i dont think she has the presence or fame to fill them.

She's actually more on the Thor/Hulk side of things. She's too powerful to be an "World Hero", really. She actually ruins things when they try to cram her into that role, which is why her comics have been failing so much--because that's what they've been doing. Her better stories is when she fucks off with deep space types for long periods and only comes back when her problems come home to roost on earth, and she needs the help of terrestrial heroes--again, like Thor.

In the comics, Marvel is broken down into three rough groups. Street heroes (Dare Devil, Punisher ect.), these guys work best with smaller stories, saving the city, or groups of people ect. "World Heroes", Iron Man, Captain America ect who handle threats that can topple countries or even the world (One of Spider man's gimmicks is he's strong enough to be here, but he purposely sticks to the street because this kind of 'big shot' hero tends to fuck a lot of shit up, too.), then you have your heroes that operate throughout the Galazy/Metaverse, like Doctor Strange, Marvel or Thor.

This is one major reason why I think Captain Marvel being the "face of the avengers" is kind of stupid. The Avengers are an Earth-team, and Marvel just doesn't play well in that wheel house. It would be like making Thor into the leader, a lot of great smaller stories become stupid because you'd constantly have to ask yourself "okay...why doesn't he/she just fly around real fast and solve all the problems?"
 
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Oh god, this shit again. This is not how religions and cults work, at all. Religions become stronger the less they are fucked with, because they grow through in-group affirmation of principles. They actually weaken with out-group challenges. We have a shit fucking ton of studies showing that people willing to proselytize views in groups where everyone else does not react will eventually win over the group. Your attitude "ignore it and it will go away" is what let this cancer eat through academia. Do you think anyone challenged gender studies professors? No. They all took your advice. And within 30 years they had their own "journals" (Scripture) and were some of the most well funded, largest departments on Campus because they RELENTLESSLY pushed their views.

People like YOU validate her views. Because when companies pimp her out, and she walks out smugly to speak and NO ONE pushes back at all, she still goes back stage and gets a bunch of high fives from fellow cult members about how brave and powerful she was. So she still gets positive social reinforcement, and now zero negative consequences, which only facilitates more adherence to social heuristics that produce such amazing outcomes. Your advice is the worst advice anyone dealing with this can take. It has no basis in reality, and only serves to somehow make your impotence feel like a strength that makes you better than those with the balls to push back.

Edit: Also, you're wrong about even the money thing. Look the Roseane fiasco. Plenty of sources indicate the executives knew they'd lose money, and even regretted the choice to fire her because of what a fucking gold mine she was--but the ideology required it. That is what makes this new religion so dangerous, it is making people irrational enough to make them less risk averse in the face of potential wealth loss. When major companies start PICKING SIDES in political debates, which almost always is a net negative in terms of value (Which is why companies almost never fucking did it before), you should understand there is more at play here than money. The only thing you even got remotely right in your entire stream of nonsense was that yes, all of these people have a kind of self fulfilling excuse as to why they fail--its the same pattern any religious person (Or idiot in general who can't understand complex systems) uses to avoid potentially finding fault with their idiotic ideology, blame everything else. That's going to happen regardless of its spoken about.

I'm not even sure how you can be a functional human being, and watch how the media strips context and scours for outrage evidence and believe somehow that the 'reality' the response would have had any effect on the perception of it. For fuck sake we just watched a bunch of school boys get turned into Nazis by well known journalists because they smiled at a native American. Do you really think the REALITY of what happens means a god damn thing to these people? No. The less you speak, the STRONGER their position is, because major media has drunk the fucking Kool Aid, and they will make 2+2=5 to get their white male heternormative devil, regardless of your actions. The only way to stop it is to ridicule them for being delusional. But if NO ONE speaks out, like your amazing advice says? No one will objectively know if the Emporer actually has a set of new clothes, but they will be forced to believe it rather than risk seeming delusional themselves. Talking about this stuff is the only way to prevent that, its the only way to maintain an objective view of facts and keep these idiots in check.
The term slippery slope doesn't apply to anything anymore. We're in Icy slope territory now. This applies to both ends of the spectrum. Tensions are too high and people are becoming more radical in their approach.

In this case, a slippery slope would be shoe-horning more women into MCU roles solely because they're women. The icy slope would be shoe-horning LGBT characters into the roles because why stop at just women? Nevermind that sexuality shouldn't fucking matter one way or the other.

Oh look: Marvel Producer Says The World Is Ready For An LGBT Superhero

You know how gaming now is all about all the characters being anything but white and male, except for a few token ones, with the rest being a cavalcade of gay, bi, trans, ethnic tropes? That's what the SJW circus act cried for and their literal fuck-buddy journalist friends supported it every way, and turned criticism of it into making the world think the dissenters were misogynist nazi's. Well, that's coming to movies in full-force. The X-Men stuff is going to be the prime delivery mechanism for this when it comes to the MCU.

Name an area of entertainment hasn't already succumbed to this shit, or is in the process of succumbing to it and I'll show you where and how you aren't looking close enough.

Can't say I can blame the spineless clowns like Fight for keeping their heads under the sand. Who the fuck wants to have their escapisms tainted by ideology? Nobody, that's who. But here we are... only wanting to play some video games and watch some movies. Unfortunately, that's unacceptable for some people and our enjoyment has to be turned into a vulnerability to exploit for their half-baked ideology.
I have a problem with these two posts.

Criticizing shit is always good but sometimes ignoring dumb shit is also good. Neither equates gossiping online with super cereal activism.

What Larson said about the dude that hit on her was bullshit if he treated her nice. If he was extremely forward as in, "Yo bitch let me suck on them titties you fucking whore," then she had every reason to be upset. That is unlikely what happened. In either case she politicized a non issue which is fucking crazy.

Everything else she said is questionable and that is coming from a reasonable position giving her every benefit of the doubt.

This video is pretty good



Fair to say Captain Whoreville is a ridiculous shitbag.
 
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I have a problem with these two posts.

Criticizing shit is always good but sometimes ignoring dumb shit is also good. Neither equates gossiping online with super cereal activism.

What Larson said about the dude that hit on her was bullshit if he treated her nice. If he was extremely forward as in, "Yo bitch let me suck on them titties you fucking whore," then she had every reason to be upset. That is unlikely what happened. In either case she politicized a non issue which is fucking crazy.

Everything else she said is questionable and that is coming from a reasonable position giving her every benefit of the doubt.

This video is pretty good



Fair to say Captain Whoreville is a ridiculous shitbag.


I don't really care about the airport thing, that's just her being a retard. What i cared about was her acting in an official capacity as a movie's rep, and claiming too many "white males" were interviewing her. Or claiming a certain movie was not made for "white men" and thus they shouldn't comment on it. And even then I really wouldn't give a shit if we were not in the social justice hysteria we were in (I'd just chalk her up as an idiot, which is why I get what you're saying, I'm all for just letting stupid speech slide), but we unfortunately are in that hysteria and if such a statement were said about any other group, the person who said it would be immediately fired, black listed and de-platformed--including the use of financial services and the like. This happens regularly to people saying far less overtly exclusionary or racist shit about any other group. I posted it before, but I think its important to simply change the groups around and see how unacceptable this language would be from the mouth of a white male about other groups.


“About a year ago, I started paying attention to what my press days looked like and the critics reviewing movies, and noticed it appeared to be overwhelmingly Jewish. So, I spoke to Dr Stacy Smith at the USC Annenberg Inclusion Initiative, who put together a study to confirm that. Moving forward, I decided to make sure my press days were more inclusive. After speaking with you, the film critic Valerie Complex and a few other white men, it sounded like across the board they weren’t getting the same opportunities as the Jews. When I talked to the facilities that weren’t providing it, they all had different excuses.’

Yikes right?

“are not allowed enough chances to read public discourse on these films by the people that the films were made for. I do not need a 40-year-old Jew to tell me what didn’t work for him about Mein Kampf. It wasn’t made for him. I want to know what it meant to white men, to Christian Men.”

If you only allow people to disregard/criticize/disparage one group, but stifle it for all others, eventually that group will start to appear twisted and terrible and genuinely the source of all the world's problems. (Rather than simply being human and being shitty in the way that literally all humans are). It's not even so much what Brie said that is the reason people need to speak up--its the fact that if you have this kind of open attitude about communication for this group, you should absolutely fight for it for every group. And part of that fight is holding these people to their own rules until it strangles them--its the only way to get some moralizing douche to stop trying to hold the reigns of speech/communication.

I mean, wee live in a world where children who smiled awkwardly at a brown-person beating a drum in their face had journalists calling for their lives to be literally ruined, to be barred from work, and being productive, to be made an example of...We have people like Dankula being thrown in jail for 'threatening Jews' by making his pug do a Nazi salute, people like Peterson being drug before tribunals for not calling a man a woman and people like Sargon being banned from major financial services that are essential for running a modern business merely because he said something deemed 'offensive'. You can't have those kinds of extremes and simply ignore this. To do so only encourages the bullying and witch hunting. Witch hunts do not end until the people on the pyre are the friends and family of the witch hunters.
 
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Lithose

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Tarrant, help. I just wanna hear talk about the movie. If I want to talk politics and such, I'd much rather it be in a politics channel.

Try to use how you feel right now to empathize with how everyone with a set of functioning testicles feels when these people shove politics into their media and entertainment. If you REALLY felt this way, you'd be enraged by Brie doing that. But you don't feel this way. You only feel this way when its opinions you don't agree with being spoken of.
 
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So, it seems the consensus is despite Brie, the movie is not a steaming pile of shit, it's not terrible, and if you can stomach seeing Brie, it may be enjoyable... Good!
 
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She's actually more on the Thor/Hulk side of things. She's too powerful to be an "World Hero", really. She actually ruins things when they try to cram her into that role, which is why her comics have been failing so much--because that's what they've been doing. Her better stories is when she fucks off with deep space types for long periods and only comes back when her problems come home to roost on earth, and she needs the help of terrestrial heroes--again, like Thor.

In the comics, Marvel is broken down into three rough groups. Street heroes (Dare Devil, Punisher ect.), these guys work best with smaller stories, saving the city, or groups of people ect. "World Heroes", Iron Man, Captain America ect who handle threats that can topple countries or even the world (One of Spider man's gimmicks is he's strong enough to be here, but he purposely sticks to the street because this kind of 'big shot' hero tends to fuck a lot of shit up, too.), then you have your heroes that operate throughout the Galazy/Metaverse, like Doctor Strange, Marvel or Thor.

This is one major reason why I think Captain Marvel being the "face of the avengers" is kind of stupid. The Avengers are an Earth-team, and Marvel just doesn't play well in that wheel house. It would be like making Thor into the leader, a lot of great smaller stories become stupid because you'd constantly have to ask yourself "okay...why doesn't he/she just fly around real fast and solve all the problems?"
So what are CM flaws, was she ever brought down a peg or two, did she ever fuck up so colossally that there were real consequences?
Does she have a redemption story buried somewhere because thats what makes hero stories popular and relatable?
That should have been the focal point of an origin story in my opinion , yes its a worn out trope but it works.
 

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So what are CM flaws, was she ever brought down a peg or two, did she ever fuck up so colossally that there were real consequences?
Does she have a redemption story buried somewhere because thats what makes hero stories popular and relatable?
That should have been the focal point of an origin story in my opinion , yes its a worn out trope but it works.

Attitude wise she is 180 from the comics, the Cpt Marvel i remember was always a very strict authoritarian military type. She still did her own thing though.

In this movie they made her more brash and "hero like" by going off on her own.
 

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So, it seems the consensus is despite Brie, the movie is not a steaming pile of shit, it's not terrible, and if you can stomach seeing Brie, it may be enjoyable... Good!
its 31% at rotten tomatoes now. here its probably 50-60%?
 
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Lol how long before RT announces that audience scores must come from verified feminism friendly Twitter accounts?
 
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Chukzombi

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Lol how long before RT announces that audience scores must come from verified feminism friendly Twitter accounts?
they will have to disable it somehow before the end of the day. this thing is going to hit 0 and stay there otherwise.
 
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I think I'm really rubbing off on you man. Noticed it like six months ago. Or you are feeling the precipice. Been interesting seeing more and more of an edge appear in your posts.


For everyone seeing the movie. If you are having problems having a kid, pm me and I'll come fuck your wife for you.

Child support waiver is required prior to me putting one in her tho.
 
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What is kind of crazy is how much praise this is getting on the SJW female empowerment front, meanwhile Battle Angel which is also a movie about a strong female protagonist is just flat out ignored. James Cameron is getting plenty of shit over it even though he has created and filmed some of the strongest Women leads in cinema history. I guess the difference is he didn't bust people over with head with it like a douche.
 
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Movie was decent. Captain Marvel is pretty powerful in this iteration of the universe. 7/10. Enjoyable.
 
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