Casual Rerolled WoW guild - Hyjal Horde
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Was doing a heroic a few nights ago with Hyksos (don't remember which one). Anyways, he starts going down and the healer can't keep him up. I sniped a soulstone on him just before he dies. He rezzes and we win easily at that point. Was a good feeling, locks dps may suck, but .... utility!
Korrupt
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Its got to be tough, as a DK I was matching that druid on overall healing done and same with the paladin healer. I don't know enough about the other tanks but I assume they have cooldowns that make them immune or something on a fast cooldown to balance our healing out.
Cad
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I'm trying to heal now and then in dungeons as I'm leveling up (95 now) just to get a feel for it, Holy Paladin. I find that there just isn't a lot of healing bandwidth. If the tank is getting hit hard (or pulls a lot of stuff), I keep sacred shield up, spam flash of light/holy shock on cooldown, and holy light when I get a proc that makes it fast. I put hand of sacrifice on him since I have the glyph, and I'll pop wings if it gets dicey (with wings I have lots of bandwidth). But in normal pulls, I find I have to spam heals and even then if the dps take some damage, and I stop healing the tank, I may not get him back to 100% even spamming until a lot of shit dies.
Is this the new normal with healers, do these tanks suck, whats the deal? Of course I'm using beacon on the tank and I try to throw sacred shield on the more aggro-y dps also.
Is this the new normal with healers, do these tanks suck, whats the deal? Of course I'm using beacon on the tank and I try to throw sacred shield on the more aggro-y dps also.
Little bit of everything. Tanks need to use cooldowns to reduce dmg and not stand in fire. Dps need to not stand in fire and use cooldowns sometimes. Healers do less healing now but everyone takes dmg at a slower rate than say MoP (from my understanding). Some people can help, ret pallies can help off heal if need be, same with ferals.
Cad
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I may not have noticed it yet but fucking monks and rets and ferals so far have done jack shit, they stand there at half health between pulls and make me heal them up instead of drinking which slows everyone down. Idiots.
Vitality
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Well yeah that's part of it. Mainly Pre 100. I've ran a few groups that were chain pulling multiple packs. Really when crap gets extra bad it's up to the dps to do what they can to stabilize the situation. Ret/Feral do a pretty nice job at assisting the tank/heals
Krassus was beasting 3 group pulls at a time in ubrs, healer was on the ball too. I think we finished it in about 25 minutes total?
Yeah, interrupting mobs (I didnt realize until like my third heroic that the terrorguard has an on command interrupt, woops, felhunter/observer can too), stunning (warlocks can AE stun with a talent). Warlocks can dispel (felhunter/observer pet), used that in ubrs on the 2nd boss, terrorguard can channel a root for i think 30 seconds on a 30s cooldown. I'm sure I'm missing other things as well.
I think there is a place you can stand while clicking that prevents damage from the lightning balls.
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I know this is supposed to read "dps" but I read it as "and still pull 14-15k dick sustained"
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You can 3 pull if the DPS knows what to burn first and the tank isn't an idiot. Its a step beyond dodging fire. From what I have seen anything with a cast bar whether its 2s or 5s from trash or bosses needs to be dodged. I think tanks ignore a lot of the trash's abilities (which cant be interrupted) and don't sidestep them. Same thing with bosses, people yolo the frontals instead of stepping through or to the side.
Believe me the fucking healers appreciate you side stepping and interrupting. They have enough to deal with the DPS taking a shit ton of damage also not moving our of the same stuff.
@Vitality god bless ret dps, Oblio saved my ass and we actually finished the dungeon with him DPS healing since our healer was Mexican and was afk or dead the whole time.
Cad
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So I just tested it in my garrison, and in ret spec my FoL heals for almost 12k, as holy spec (with all gear switched to int gear and spellpower weapon) it heals for 7800?? And thats the highest throughput heal if I spam FoL with holy shock on cooldown to use holy light, thats my highest throughput with sacred shield up.
So a ret pally has more healing throughput than a holy pally?
So a ret pally has more healing throughput than a holy pally?
