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a_skeleton_05

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He was a 13 year old child raped by an adult. How the fuck anyone can look at it like anything other than her being a sick pedophile is bewildering to me.

"Hurr durr he got laid"

No, fuck off. He was a child.
 
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He was a 13 year old child raped by an adult. How the fuck anyone can look at it like anything other than her being a sick pedophile is bewildering to me.

"Hurr durr he got laid"

No, fuck off. He was a child.
Since I made that remark I'll take it. When I was 13, I'd probably have given a toe or three to get laid. Yes I know he can't comprehend the full results of his actions and everything.
 
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a_skeleton_05

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Since I made that remark I'll take it. When I was 13, I'd probably have given a toe or three to get laid. Yes I know he can't comprehend the full results of his actions and everything.

Of course. We all would have killed for that shit to happen, but we were kids and as you said: had no comprehension of the choice or actions involved. This doesn't change that she's a sick fuck the same as a mustached balding fat dude raping a little girl is.

He's going to grow up as a guy that got raped by an adult. I don't give a shit how good looking she is, you don't just shrug it off and say "Yeah, I was raped, but she wasn't ugly." Even if the act itself wasn't an issue, his entire life will be changed simply due to the outcome. His parents or community will never look at him the same, not to mention whatever remnants of media coverage is going to haunt him for the rest of his life.
 
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GuardianX

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He's going to grow up as a guy that got raped by an adult.

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Okay I wanna preface this by saying, I don't agree with relationships of adults with children. This is just me thinking out the laws and standards in place and our reactions to them.

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I mean I 100% agree there is a double standard when it comes to boys and girls re: sexual encounters at young age and the punishments levied on the adults. The idea that the kid could end up fucked mentally for life almost entirely depends on the type of kid that got sexed and the encounter.

I think the laws need to be re-evaluated and could possibly be changed to be something like:
  • If the person to initiate sexual contact is a minor then it should be a MisD, regardless of the role of the adult.
  • If the person to initiate sexual contact is an adult and the difference in age is greater than (Arbitrary number) years then it is a felony, regardless of the role of the adult.
  • If the person to initiate sexual contact is an adult and the difference in age is less than (Arbitrary number) years then, with regard to the role of the adult, it should be a felony.
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Basically:
  • If you are a 26 year old teacher getting hit on by a child and you let them touch you, you would be charged with a MisD.
  • If you are a 39 year old Basket Weaver and you convince a child to let you touch them, you get charged with a felony.
  • If you are a 26 year old teacher and you convince a child to let you touch them, you get charged with a felony since you are in a position of power over them.
  • If you are a 18 year old HS senior and you convince a child to let you touch them, the court would decide if the relationship is consensual and rule on it at that point.
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Ideally the point is to get away from these retarded soccer-moms abusing the "Adult" stipulation when a relationship pops up between their "Child" and an "Adult" (meaning a kid at school that is 18).

When I was growing up, girls around me were super over the top sexual animals, I honestly never thought about it at all growing up because I thought that shit was normal. It was only as an adult that I kinda took a step back and questioned why some girls didn't even masturbate when I experienced other girls that would grind their ass on my dick during school "Dances". So I don't fully understand the aggressiveness that parents have when they hear about their kids doing sexual stuff in the brackets of 13-18. You have been handing your kid the entertainment device for a decade and they have been watching mental programming for 10 years and you think that your kid will be the magical one that doesn't think about sex til 21? No. Your kid will be just another kid that finds "porn" and does the same thing billions of kids before them did. Porn doesn't even LITERALLY have to be PORN, it can be watching the little mermaid, Moana or Frozen.

I'm not saying give each kid a premium pornhub account, I'm just saying that we sit kids down in front of things that we just accept as "normal" and then expect them not to ask questions or seek stimulation til "They reach an age". Most people don't understand that content has gotten more and more stimulating, sexually and otherwise, for decades. Things like "The Bachelor", "Dancing with the Stars", "American Idol" and a slew of other consumer driven shows prey on making yourself appealing in multiple ways. People sit down with their family and watch these shows not even imagining that their kid will construe the parents observation of these things as a tacit approval of the behaviour and the kid will go on to emulate the behaviour observed in the show with the presupposition that the parent will be happy with them emulating that behaviour. The end result is a kid that seeks out multiple partners with varrying degrees of intimacy, each time they do something sexual and hit that dopamine release they will associate the encounter positively and they will attach that feeling, along with their parents adoration of these shows, with an understanding that what they are doing is good and acceptable.

Finally that touches on my changes, we move society in such a way that we sexualize younger and younger and then we tell people "GET FUCKED!" when they finally fall into a relationship with a teen. We always talk about girls as these porcelain dolls of sexuality that get broken by some big bad teacher and we just run under the assumption that boys are just being alpha. Why can't it just be that some people just wanna fuck 24/7 regardless of sex or age( to a degree)? I get that "Or Age" is a really fucking touchy subject and I agree with the sentiment, BUT...we have a shit tier double standard where men get fucked and women fuck in the judicial system because we coddle girls. We have 2 sliders for "give a fuck" and the slider on the boys side is too low while the girls are too high, we need to give a fuck in situations where it's needed and not give a fuck otherwise. We also need to stop showing tacit approval for shit tier relationship and emotional standards though watching utter garbage in media, set a higher standard for ourselves and our kids and we don't even need to change shit, law wise.
 
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So many of these women are married. How do those husbands recover from being cheated on with a fucking kid?
 

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his entire life will be changed simply due to the outcome. His parents or community will never look at him the same, not to mention whatever remnants of media coverage is going to haunt him for the rest of his life.

I think you're being retarded, but I'm willing to listen. Are there any interviews with some of these victims 10-20 years down the road we can point to as evidence? The only one I know of where we had any kind of followup was the dude who knocked up his teacher then married her when she got out of prison.
 

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I think you're being retarded, but I'm willing to listen. Are there any interviews with some of these victims 10-20 years down the road we can point to as evidence? The only one I know of where we had any kind of followup was the dude who knocked up his teacher then married her when she got out of prison.

Or you become the leader of France and fuck the country into riots.
 
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I’m aware we have laws for a reason, but once being a 13 year old male, I don’t think most of these young guys are as fragile as you guys are trying to make it seem. With the internet and easily accessible information, these young guys are not as innocent as you would think. Unlike a young girl, whom I think would be a lot more easily persuaded (women like to please, even at a young age. And I’m not talking about sex. Just in general), these guys know full well once phone numbers and snap chat have been exchanged, what their next goal is. Van Halen wrote a song for a reason.

It should be up to the adult to do the right thing. Kids do stupid shit all the time. They push the boundaries. Sometimes that includes fucking a teacher. But saying that these young guys will have issues later in life? That’s only how the people around them act and treat the situation. Mixing raging young male harmonies with stupid teen decision and throwing in a dash of frantic parenting and that’s where you will get the mental disorders.
 

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Kids do stupid shit all the time. They push the boundaries. Sometimes that includes fucking a teacher.

Unlike a young girl, whom I think would be a lot more easily persuaded

This is where I disconnect, I think a lot of girls are just the same as guys but we still have this notion that they need mass protecting.

Biology wise I stand conflicted with my stance here because women DO have more to risk and thus SHOULD be protected from poor choices. However, I think that if we are looking at boys fucking their 20-30 year old teacher willingly and shrugging, we should be doing the same for a girl doing the same for a guy teacher. The main difference is in the legal situation the male teacher is absolutely FUCKED where the female teacher could likely go on to write a couple books about the experience and end up on ellen.
 

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When an authority figure destroys that relationship and has sex with you, that's going to have an impact. A long term impact. It will take years to figure out exactly what that means. It doesn't mean that every 13 year old who fucks a teacher is going to be a serial killer by 20, but it will have an impact on their future relationships. Without question.
 

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This is where I disconnect, I think a lot of girls are just the same as guys but we still have this notion that they need mass protecting.

Sounds like you were infected with some political correctness. Our little girls do need mass protecting. So do our wives and mothers. Don't let cucks and crazies convince you that you need to change your sexist ways.
 
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When an authority figure destroys that relationship and has sex with you, that's going to have an impact. A long term impact. It will take years to figure out exactly what that means. It doesn't mean that every 13 year old who fucks a teacher is going to be a serial killer by 20, but it will have an impact on their future relationships. Without question.

This is the kind of stuff I’m talking about when I mentioned “frantic parenting”. If you tell the kid they are going to have problems, eventually it will be a self fulfilling prophecy.

Helping the kid through the situation; avoiding making them feel like an outright victim or feeling like they did anything wrong and you can help avoid the outcome you are so convinced will happen.
 

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Sounds like you were infected with some political correctness. Our little girls do need mass protecting. So do our wives and mothers. Don't let cucks and crazies convince you that you need to change your sexist ways.

It's not that, I'm an all or nothing type person. Hold people accountable and levy equal punishments to the adults or change the system such that the punishments are equal.

This system we have of basically saying girls need to be protected but boys are fine is insane. The only time we put the "Boys are fine" aspect on hold is when it's a guy touching boys (a la catholic church), would we hold the same standard if we found a chick from this thread was touching girls? I'm pretty sure most people would shrug it off as nothing. It just isn't egregious, it would likely sit in the minds like the thought of a boy fucking some hottie 20 something thats going through a marriage collapse, I believe it would be a non-starter for a GOOD portion of people.

We need to pass punishments and hold people accountable equally OR we need to change that shit because it makes us look retarded having a double standard.
 

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imo 3-5 year difference in age- at the RIGHT AGE is ok. so 18 and a 15yr old is not "BAD" per se ( for the record i was 18 and my wife was 15 within days of me meeting her (met 2 days before my 18th birthday))

an 18yr old with a 13yr old though is right out...in my opinion.

again, it depends on the age of the people it is about. a 21yr old with a 17yr old - would be fine IF there was not a teacher/student aspect.
 

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I think you're being retarded, but I'm willing to listen. Are there any interviews with some of these victims 10-20 years down the road we can point to as evidence? The only one I know of where we had any kind of followup was the dude who knocked up his teacher then married her when she got out of prison.

Are you trying to project shit onto what I said here? Even if he is not traumatized by it, his life will be shaped by it. It's a course dictated to by an adult who fucking to fuck a child. This kid could probably barely decide which type of Anime he liked best, or if he preferred Fortnite to Minecraft. But now, since the teacher he liked who was bringing up urges he could barely understand coerced him into having sex, he's dealing with a situation so fucking far over his head that he'll be confused by it until he's into adulthood, or maybe even never.

Let me repeat this part:

A 28 year old woman decided she wanted to fuck a 13 year old child.

You fucking clowns trying to justify this shit as no big deal are no better than the fanatic left trying to normalize paedophilia.
 
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If you tell the kid they are going to have problems, eventually it will be a self fulfilling prophecy.

We used to call that labeling. I don't think they're allowed to use that term anymore. My sister is a teacher and she's the one who told me that. I still don't understand why.

It's not that, I'm an all or nothing type person. Hold people accountable and levy equal punishments to the adults or change the system such that the punishments are equal.

I'm not against that in this situation. I was only speaking to his internal war about protecting our little girls.

Are you trying to project shit onto what I said here?

No more than you are. I said I'm willing to consider the position, but nothing short of interviews with victims will be likely to convince me. It's basically an unknowable thing for all of us here. Whether the kid fucks his teacher or not, he's going to make decisions that could fuck up the rest of his life. He might decide studying is for losers, get shitty grades, and wind up in a customer service job he hates. He might start gang banging. He might start doing drugs. How do we stop him from making those bad decisions that he doesn't understand? Sex isn't that big a deal, especially these days. As long as you don't get pregnant, aids, or hep c, there's no long term detriment. What if he fucks a 13 year old girl not related to me? That's fine, right? So sex is clearly not that big a deal.
 
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a_skeleton_05

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No more than you are. I said I'm willing to consider the position, but nothing short of interviews with victims will be likely to convince me. It's basically an unknowable thing for all of us here. Whether the kid fucks his teacher or not, he's going to make decisions that could fuck up the rest of his life. He might decide studying is for losers, get shitty grades, and wind up in a customer service job he hates. He might start gang banging. He might start doing drugs. How do we stop him from making those bad decisions that he doesn't understand? Sex isn't that big a deal, especially these days. As long as you don't get pregnant, aids, or hep c, there's no long term detriment. What if he fucks a 13 year old girl not related to me? That's fine, right? So sex is clearly not that big a deal.

Do you really not see how a kid making stupid choices for himself is different than a predator making them for him? I hold this piece of shit accountable the same I would a gang leader coercing a kid into shooting someone as a part of gang initiation, or a drug dealer trying to get a kid hooked on something to make a few bucks.

And you're right, sex these days can be a non-issue provided any of the variety of consequences that can happen don't happen. Problem with this is that the fucking 13 year old has no meaningful concept of those consequences and can't make an informed decision about them like the adult can. Mistakes and bad choices happen. That's life. This is not that.