Love how ESPN is trying to spin the Miss. St game as a solid but tough win against Kentucky. Is that suppose to help solidify their #1 ranking? This is Kentucky they are talking about here, the near bottom-barrel SEC team with most of their wins against FCS teams and an incredibly mediocre and overrated South Carolina team. Also a team that finally has its first few SEC win in what, 4 years?
Love how ESPN is trying to spin the Miss. St game as a solid but tough win against Kentucky. Is that suppose to help solidify their #1 ranking? This is Kentucky they are talking about here, the near bottom-barrel SEC team with most of their wins against FCS teams and an incredibly mediocre and overrated South Carolina team. Also a team that finally has its first few SEC win in what, 4 years?
They do have a stake in this. With the partnership with SEC network, they receive quite a lot of money from the SEC and subsequently, money from the success of the SEC teams (SEC success, hyped or not, brings in fans and people to subscribe $$ to SEC Network). It also brings to light the fact that they brought this up makes it even more ridiculous. If it is not an issue, you wave it off and not give a shit because you know its not true and etc. Instead, he goes on some long rant about how there isn't any bias and bullshit like that. This is a political tactic 101, deny deny deny when something is true. It is pathetic overall.
Either way, I respect some teams in the SEC because they demonstrate year after year they are the shit. However, some of the SEC teams get a lot of credit for absolute shit. Hence my comment about how ESPN is clamoring about the Miss. St. win over Kentucky and how it is a meaningful win when it sure the fuck isn't. It should actually be the exact opposite. The game was a lot closer than it ever should have been with such a "dominant" #1 ranked team. It begs the question of FSU with that in mind as they've had close games too, but I also criticize them just as much (they are substantially less great this year compared to last, they are winning on almost pure luck some games).
Either way, I suspect the SEC cock-sucking will continue for the foreseeable future. Teams like Alabama and Auburn (somewhat) deserve it all, but others don't. Stuff like this also makes me hate college basketball as teams like Duke and UNC always get a lot of credit (especially preseason-wise). They have no been relevant in years but yet are always considered "dominant" teams. Teams like UK (I'll admit even though they are my rival), Louisville, UConn, and a few others truly deserve the credit as they remain relevent in terms of tournament year after year. But teams with "tradition" or overhyped conferences (ACC and Big 12 (Kansas) for instance) always get the most attention overall, which is pure bullshit.
I think it is still funny that the SEC is 8-10 vs. Big East in bowl games and 25-29 in regular season.... The BIG EAST!!!! The good ole' cupcake conference that everyone laughed at.
Big East is the only conference that has a positive W/L over the SEC (both bowl and regular season) and that is just downright hilarious. So crown the Big East as the total conference champions up until 2013?
All games
2013/01/05 Mississippi 38 - Pittsburgh 17 W !! BBVA Compass Bowl !!
2013/01/02 Florida 23 - Louisville 33 L !! Sugar Bowl !!
2012/11/17 Missouri 27 - Syracuse 31 L
2012/09/22 Arkansas 26 - Rutgers 35 L
2012/09/02 Kentucky 14 - Louisville 32 L
2011/12/31 Vanderbilt 24 - Cincinnati 31 L !! Liberty Bowl !!
2011/09/24 LSU 47 - West Virginia 21 W
2011/09/17 Kentucky 17 - Louisville 24 L
2011/09/10 Vanderbilt 24 - Connecticut 21 W
2011/09/10 Tennessee 45 - Cincinnati 23 W
2011/01/08 Kentucky 10 - Pittsburgh 27 L !! BBVA Compass Bowl !!
2010/10/02 Vanderbilt 21 - Connecticut 40 L
2010/09/25 LSU 20 - West Virginia 14 W
2010/09/11 Florida 38 - South Florida 14 W
2010/09/04 Kentucky 23 - Louisville 16 W
2010/01/02 South Carolina 7 - Connecticut 20 L !! Papa John's.com Bowl !!
2010/01/01 Florida 51 - Cincinnati 24 W !! Sugar Bowl !!
2009/09/19 Auburn 41 - West Virginia 30 W
2009/09/19 Kentucky 31 - Louisville 27 W
2008/10/23 Auburn 17 - West Virginia 34 L
2008/08/31 Kentucky 27 - Louisville 2 W
2007/10/20 Mississippi St 13 - West Virginia 38 L
2007/09/15 Kentucky 40 - Louisville 34 W
2007/09/08 Auburn 23 - South Florida 26 L OT
2006/10/07 Mississippi St 14 - West Virginia 42 L
2006/09/03 Kentucky 28 - Louisville 59 L
2006/01/02 Georgia 35 - West Virginia 38 L !! Sugar Bowl !!
2005/09/04 Kentucky 24 - Louisville 31 L
2004/10/09 Vanderbilt 34 - Rutgers 37 L
2003/11/08 Tennessee 10 - Miami FL 6 W
2003/09/06 Florida 33 - Miami FL 38 L
2002/11/09 Tennessee 3 - Miami FL 26 L
2002/09/27 Auburn 37 - Syracuse 34 W OT
2002/09/27 Tennessee 35 - Rutgers 14 W
2002/09/21 South Carolina 42 - Temple 21 W
2002/09/07 Florida 16 - Miami FL 41 L
2002/09/01 LSU 8 - Virginia Tech 26 L
2001/12/28 Georgia 16 - Boston College 20 L !! Music City Bowl !!
2001/09/22 Auburn 14 - Syracuse 31 L
2001/09/01 Tennessee 33 - Syracuse 9 W
2001/01/02 Florida 20 - Miami FL 37 L !! Sugar Bowl !!
2000/12/28 Mississippi 38 - West Virginia 49 L !! Music City Bowl !!
1999/12/29 Kentucky 13 - Syracuse 20 L !! Music City Bowl !!
1999/01/02 Florida 31 - Syracuse 10 W !! Orange Bowl !!
1998/12/29 Alabama 7 - Virginia Tech 38 L !! Music City Bowl !!
1998/09/05 Tennessee 34 - Syracuse 33 W
1995/01/02 South Carolina 24 - West Virginia 21 W !! Carquest Bowl !!
1994/12/30 Tennessee 45 - Virginia Tech 23 W !! Gator Bowl !!
1994/01/01 Florida 41 - West Virginia 7 W !! Sugar Bowl !!
1993/01/01 Tennessee 38 - Boston College 23 W !! Hall of Fame Bowl !!
1993/01/01 Alabama 34 - Miami FL 13 W !! Sugar Bowl !!
1991/09/21 Florida 21 - Syracuse 38 L
1991/09/07 Vanderbilt 10 - Syracuse 37 L
1991/09/07 Alabama 41 - Temple 3 W
Congrats on the 14 games against Vanderbilt and Kentucky
The reason the record plays out like this is that with automatic bowl bids, you generally end up with something like the SEC #9 team vs the Big East #2. That's why you see so many "BBVA Compass Bowl" and "Music City Bowl" and "Papa Johns Bowl" listed in there. That's like the 8th or 9th best bowl for the SEC, where it was the 2nd or 3rd best for the Big East. So the Big East regularly faced off against some 6-6 SEC team (Vandy or Kentucky) with their 10-2, 9-3 2nd place team.
I'm not going to claim that there aren't good teams in other leagues, there certainly are, many of whom would do perfectly well in the SEC. You could take the top team from any other league (Florida State, Oregon, Michigan St) and they would be in the mix for winning the SEC this year. Where the difference lies is after those top couple of dominant teams in a conference. I guarantee whoever finishes # 3-7 or so in the SEC this year are lightyears better than the #3-7 in any other conference.
Just for comparison sake, #3-7 of a few different conferences
SEC: Alabama(7-1), Georgia(6-1), Auburn(6-1), LSU(6-2), Missouri(6-2)
ACC: Clemson(6-2), Louisville(6-2), Georgia Tech (6-2), Boston College (5-3), North Carolina (4-4)
Pac12: Arizona (6-1), Utah (6-1), Stanford(5-3), USC(5-3), UCLA(6-2)
Big12: Baylor(6-1), TCU(6-1) Ok St(5-3), Oklahoma(5-2), Texas(3-5)
I think the SEC team would be favored in almost any situation against an equal-seeded team. Anyone think Alabama/Clemson would be a close game, or Auburn/Oklahoma St, LSU/USC or Missouri/Texas?
Sure, there would be some damn fun games, and good matchups in there (I'd love to see Georgia/TCU), but as a whole, the SEC probably wins 2/3 to 3/4 of those games.
The bottom line in of all this is that the 4 team playoff is not good enough which we all knew. Should have just copy/pasted Division II/FCS playoffs and been done. The conference championship games however(which were made solely for money to split up between conference teams) fuck all of this up unless they extend the cfb season well past what it is now.
This is what it should look like, where the teams with the better records/rankings get to play on their home field through most of the playoffs. But then the stupid fucking bowls wont make their money, so it will never happen because CFB is ruined by money.
The bottom line in of all this is that the 4 team playoff is not good enough which we all knew. Should have just copy/pasted Division II/FCS playoffs and been done. The conference championship games however(which were made solely for money to split up between conference teams) fuck all of this up unless they extend the cfb season well past what it is now.
This is what it should look like, where the teams with the better records/rankings get to play on their home field through most of the playoffs. But then the stupid fucking bowls wont make their money, so it will never happen because CFB is ruined by money.
I don't see the 4-team playoff lasting more than a year or two. We will be up to 8 pretty dang quick. Have the first round of playoffs in the higher seeds home stadium, then move into the traditional major bowl sites from there. Would work out perfectly for TV/holidays too. First round of games(4 games) are like Christmas eve/Christmas, second round of games(2 games) are on New Years day, then you have your championship game the next week(Jan 7th or 8th or whatever) just like it's been during the entire BCS era.
8 teams gets in each conference champ + 3 wild cards
Lol whatsa is still obsessed. Do you have a room with walls covered in all my posts or something bro? Its a little sick at this point, if you werent the turd in the punch bowl I'd be touched.
Lol whatsa is still obsessed. Do you have a room with walls covered in all my posts or something bro? Its a little sick at this point, if you werent the turd in the punch bowl I'd be touched.
I have no idea what you're talking about little kid. Care to explain what my hissy fit over the lack of forum moderaters to deal with the SEC mouth breathers has to do with you?
Hey Ray Jeem. It's been a rough season, and I wanted to get you something to make you feel better. So I got you a video of our white running back blowing up a Florida DB.
1 Mississippi State (46) 7-0 1486
2 Florida State (14) 7-0 1453
3 Alabama 7-1 1290
4 Auburn 6-1 1267
5 Oregon 7-1 1199
6 Notre Dame 6-1 1161
7 Ole Miss 7-1 1095
8 Michigan State 7-1 1086
9 Georgia 6-1 1074
10 TCU 6-1 1030
11 Kansas State 6-1 930
12 Baylor 6-1 839
13 Ohio State 6-1 676
14 Arizona 6-1 669
15 Arizona State 6-1 667
16 LSU 7-2 574
17 Nebraska 7-1 535
18 Utah 6-1 524
19 Oklahoma 5-2 430
20 West Virginia 6-2 379
21 East Carolina 6-1 366
22 Clemson 6-2 265
23 Marshall 8-0 184
24 Duke 6-1 121
25 UCLA 6-2 106
only 2 undefeated teams in the country. Weren't there something like six at the end of the season last year? I know LSU has 2 losses, but I expected them to jump more.
Nah there was only 1 undefeated major-conference team last year(Florida St, Auburn had a loss going into the title game). There are rarely more than 2. I think you have to go back to probably 2004 to find the last time you had 3 major-conference undefeated teams as of the end of the regular season. That year was Auburn, USC, and Oklahoma, and USC/Oklahoma played for the national title.
There were several times in recent years when a small-conference school went undefeated (TCU, Boise, Utah, Hawaii) but they never got to play for a national title
1 Mississippi State (46) 7-0 1486
2 Florida State (14) 7-0 1453
3 Alabama 7-1 1290
4 Auburn 6-1 1267
5 Oregon 7-1 1199
6 Notre Dame 6-1 1161
7 Ole Miss 7-1 1095
8 Michigan State 7-1 1086
9 Georgia 6-1 1074
10 TCU 6-1 1030
11 Kansas State 6-1 930
12 Baylor 6-1 839
13 Ohio State 6-1 676
14 Arizona 6-1 669
15 Arizona State 6-1 667
16 LSU 7-2 574
17 Nebraska 7-1 535
18 Utah 6-1 524
19 Oklahoma 5-2 430
20 West Virginia 6-2 379
21 East Carolina 6-1 366
22 Clemson 6-2 265
23 Marshall 8-0 184
24 Duke 6-1 121
25 UCLA 6-2 106
only 2 undefeated teams in the country. Weren't there something like six at the end of the season last year? I know LSU has 2 losses, but I expected them to jump more.
Hey Ray Jeem. It's been a rough season, and I wanted to get you something to make you feel better. So I got you a video of our white running back blowing up a Florida DB.
