College Football 2017-2018 Season

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Well an eight team playoff with the conference champ of each P5, the best G5 team, and two wildcards would be a pretty damn good start. The conference champs would be completely without opinion and those are typically the teams that have a legit shot anyway so that is settled. The G5 team and the wildcards would be dealt with by tie breakers as much as possible. Record, conference record, OOC record, head to head if applicable, margin of victory and then finally strength of schedule which would be the only subjective decision maker and pretty far down the list of tie breakers. Now whether or not you would need a committee to pick the last three teams in or could just use a bcs type polling system assuming you got down to a subjective SoS tie breaker I really don't care. But muffing up the bubble teams in a championship scenario with opinion being the very last defining factor is acceptable to me as opposed to shit like Ohio State making it in last year or Alabama possibly making it in this year.
 
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So, what does a system without opinion look like in a college landscape? Any system will have some imperfections.

Just look at something like the pro sports that don't have an opinion system and are a lot easier to deal with given the smaller number of teams and the amount of games between them. You still see good teams out of the playoffs and bad teams get in. In the NFL, there's been 11-5 teams that don't get in and 7-9 teams that do. In the NBA, there's been sub .500 teams that get in while 50 win teams don't. All because of divisions and conference benefits.
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It would take some type of reorganization into X# of conferences with only teams in conference eligible for playoff spots. But with so many teams how do you break that down so that you can have an appreciable number of in conference games, with a conference championship, then a playoff system? Even D2 has a committee to select their 28 (?) playoff teams. And there are a comparable number of teams to D1. Plus there isn’t nearly the financial considerations as there is with D1.

Could have sworn there was a great article I linked here years ago from Saturdays Down South or CBS that reorganized basically the entire league in to mega conferences to see how it’d shake out. And it kinda made sense in a crazy way.

I’m typing too much on mobile. This is painful and hard to organize thoughts.
 
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DickTrickle said:
So, what does a system without opinion look like in a college landscape? Any system will have some imperfections.

Just look at something like the pro sports that don't have an opinion system and are a lot easier to deal with given the smaller number of teams and the amount of games between them. You still see good teams out of the playoffs and bad teams get in. In the NFL, there's been 11-5 teams that don't get in and 7-9 teams that do. In the NBA, there's been sub .500 teams that get in while 50 win teams don't. All because of divisions and conference benefits.
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Im not sure if you are being intentionally retarded or not. NFL is determined entirely by math and College should be the same way. You win your division or you win the most games. The end.
 
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Im not sure if you are being intentionally retarded or not. NFL is determined entirely by math and College should be the same way. You win your division or you win the most games. The end.
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Now I'm not sure if you're being intentionally retarded or not. My point was a predetermined system isn't necessarily getting you the best teams, either. Did you even read the post?

And the current differences in team power and number of conferences makes it more difficult in college unless some consolidation is done and the playoffs are expanded.
 
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Now I'm not sure if you're being intentionally retarded or not. My point was a predetermined system isn't necessarily getting you the best teams, either. Did you even read the post?

And the current differences in team power and number of conferences makes it more difficult in college unless some consolidation is done and the playoffs are expanded.
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The best teams are the ones that win the most. Eye test bullshit is just that bullshit. If you say you are the better team win your fucking conference or shut up. If your conference has 4 amazing teams and you didnt win then you are not the best. If the SEC wants to stack all the "best" teams in their conference as part of the on going money scam they run thats fine but youre only sending 1-2 teams to the play offs. Sorry about the rest of you schmucks if you cant beat Alabama. Its not that fucking complicated. Only one stat matters at the end of the day, wins. That is unless you are the college football playoff committee then it depends on what you had for breakfast and if you had a fight with your wife that day .
 
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Yes, they would need to expand to eight teams and expansion was part of the deal when the playoffs were started. Ease in to it with four then expand to six or eight but never enough to make the traditional bowl system irrelevant. The only real change that needs to be made for the framework I posted earlier to work isn't even a complete realignment. The SEC simply has to play nine conference games like every other major conference and give up their free end of the season Mercer or LA Tech game. Then you have all of the P5 and G5 playing two out of conference and nine conference games plus their conference championship if they make it.
 
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DickTrickle said:
So, what does a system without opinion look like in a college landscape? Any system will have some imperfections.

Just look at something like the pro sports that don't have an opinion system and are a lot easier to deal with given the smaller number of teams and the amount of games between them. You still see good teams out of the playoffs and bad teams get in. In the NFL, there's been 11-5 teams that don't get in and 7-9 teams that do. In the NBA, there's been sub .500 teams that get in while 50 win teams don't. All because of divisions and conference benefits.
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We can create advanced computer programs to fairly evaluate and rank the teams. To make it even more fair, we can have multiple different computers making the calculation and then average them together.
 
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Foggy said:
We can create advanced computer programs to fairly evaluate and rank the teams. To make it even more fair, we can have multiple different computers making the calculation and then average them together.
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The problem with the BCS was that they were too heavily weighted towards the human polls. Fuck the AP and the Coaches.
 
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DickTrickle said:
So, what does a system without opinion look like in a college landscape? Any system will have some imperfections.

Just look at something like the pro sports that don't have an opinion system and are a lot easier to deal with given the smaller number of teams and the amount of games between them. You still see good teams out of the playoffs and bad teams get in. In the NFL, there's been 11-5 teams that don't get in and 7-9 teams that do. In the NBA, there's been sub .500 teams that get in while 50 win teams don't. All because of divisions and conference benefits.
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Personally I think it looks like the 5 P5 champs are in. That's it. If you didn't win your conference or your division? Tough shit, the regular season is the early rounds of the playoff and you lost. If you don't have a conference to be a champion of? Tough shit, join the 21st century and join one. If not enjoy the money all to yourselves, but know you won't ever be win the bullshit popularity contest again for a national championship. And let's be real here. The group of 5 will never ever sniff the playoffs. Ever. Hell the New Year's six do all they can to not draw the short straw to land one in their game. They just don't have the fan base to make it financially viable.

Then the committee just determines the seeding with their rankings. Seeds 4 and 5 play at 4's home in a play in just after championship week. And the winner of that game and the other 3 champs then go on to play the final 4 as it is now. Anything more than 5 just dilutes it too much in my opinion but 4 teams with a 5 conference is too much the other way. The Conference regular season still hugely matters, but you aren't completely gutted if you lose an OOC game you took a risk on.
 
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If we wins 10 games in his first year or two, A&M will probably get another 800M in donations. His contract pays for itself!
 
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Ameraves said:
Jimbo Fisher Reportedly to Be Offered 10-Year Contract to Coach Texas A&M

They seem pretty optimistic about Fisher if they are offering him a 10 year deal.
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I think Fisher could do very well there. He could easily win 10 games there... but, his two losses will be Alabama and Auburn/LSU. Meaning, he'll probably rarely win the division, and A&M's fans are retarded, so he'll get fired after going 56-4 with 5 New Year's six wins for not being championship caliber.
 
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Jimbo to A&M official.

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So Fulmer is coming back to preside over the dumpster fire he helped build and ignite...

Meanwhile many of Vegas oddsmakers have Bama with the best chance to win the CFP...

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lurkingdirk said:
Notre Dame needs a new coach. Brian Kelly has all this bloody talent but can't win key games. The turnover situation is out of control.
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Fuck Kelly. He had a good thing going in Cincy. The way he left the team was very bitch.
 
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