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Woefully Inept

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I'd like to see FF be a pure adventure book. The cover to the original #1 is perfect. Go out and explore the world or even space. Find new and interesting locales and creatures. And as a family. I can't stand how Marvel always has to create unnecessary drama between couples and families. It's so goddamn lazy.


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PatrickStar

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So I went in on the relaunch.

Currently I am buying:
Dr Strange (always my fav growing up)
Invincible Ironman
Deadpool
Hawkeye
Mighty Thor (eh very average)

Wife is buying:
All New Avengers
Uncanny Avengers
Extraordinary Xmen
Uncanny Xmen
Guardians of the Galaxy

I got the Deadpool/Spiderman which had an issue of Vision on there. It was intriguing. I am looking for two more subs to pick up. Any suggestions?
 

Caliane

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I'd like to see FF be a pure adventure book. The cover to the original #1 is perfect. Go out and explore the world or even space. Find new and interesting locales and creatures. And as a family. I can't stand how Marvel always has to create unnecessary drama between couples and families. It's so goddamn lazy.


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becuase the FF exist within the greater 616.

FF work best as you say, exploring the unknown. but that is really limited in a world that is shared with the Avengers, AIM, Xmen, etc.
and those books spend half their time fighting themselves as well. its a cycle.. any world threat would face 20 different foes. So, xmen fight xmen, so you dont ask, "where are the Avengers?"
and FF does the same thing... Family drama.. because any global drama would have The Avengers handling it, or Shield, or Sword, etc.
 

meStevo

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Disappointed, I'm slowly just losing interest in everything. Everything feels so obviously built to be turned into a TPB or to do a few token things leading up to the next reboot.

Next up is DC's 'Rebirth' after the remaining New 52 titles hit issue 52. Went from interested at picking up a collected edition of the Darkseid War that looks really interesting to not caring at all.

Maybe we'll get back to a more traditional Superman instead of shirt and jeans guy, and Clark back as Batman.

Retailers are seeing the same apathy from their customers -http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/01/...-and-dc-sales/
 

Woefully Inept

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What kills it for me these days is the constant hero vs. hero shit and the homogenization of teams. I really preferred when it was the Avengers books, the X-books, then whatever else. When they crossed over it was a big deal. Now it's all one mish mosh. You'd think with all the Civil War type shit that super villains would be having a field day with everyone fighting each other.
 

Neph_sl

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I'm trying to figure out that Scooby pic...

Scooby communicates via emoji
Velma is a gamer dwarf that uses drones
Shaggy is a hipster
And Fred and Daphne are the muscle who fight with alien tech?
Speaking of which, they're in an Alien hive?

Yeah, not liking it
 

radditsu

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Who cares about scooby. Space Ghost would have to be like..Space Ghost coast to Coast right? Original Space Space Ghost is dry as toast. All his adventures need to be saving ol Kentucky shark..or huffing gas with Busta Rhymes. Also he would have a troubled home life due to being married to Bjork. He could try to find friends in the Justice Hole! Have a crossover with aqua team hunger force (the bun is in your mind!)


It would be soo good.
 

Nester

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Disappointed, I'm slowly just losing interest in everything. Everything feels so obviously built to be turned into a TPB or to do a few token things leading up to the next reboot.

Next up is DC's 'Rebirth' after the remaining New 52 titles hit issue 52. Went from interested at picking up a collected edition of the Darkseid War that looks really interesting to not caring at all.

Maybe we'll get back to a more traditional Superman instead of shirt and jeans guy, and Clark back as Batman.

Retailers are seeing the same apathy from their customers -http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/01/...-and-dc-sales/
I fully agree.

Do you think its our expectations that have changed as we have aged? couple that with the great comic movies and tv (flash/arrow) we have seen has raised the bar on story telling?

Convergence and Secret wars have fully derailed the comic train I was on that was rebirthed by the first Avengers movie.
 

meStevo

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All of the above. I'd love to get back to 90s of multiple books going hundreds of issues, but don't think the market or writers really are into that kind of thing anymore. The market has gone into this cycle of being addicted to the bump a #1 provides and just feasts on every opportunity to churn them out.

They've neutered much of the nostalgia we can even have for many titles with all the reboots, which all else fails that's what I've personally gone back to when reading a book becomes a bit of a slog but that's impossible.

Never been one for indies, so hard to just get into them for a bit and even then many of them are also short term affairs so might as well wait for trades.

Kind of wish Marvel would bury the hatchet with Fox and revive the X-Men in a big way. It's always so eye-rolling whenever anyone 'dies' because it won't stick for long, but I'd almost rather they bring back Jean, Logan and Xavier in a single event. Restore the old guard that was the backbone of the X-Men franchise and have an all out war with the Inhumans or something. Bring Liefeld in for an initial arc of old school X-Force while we're at it.

With the nostalgia gone, there's just nothing left when things go south as far as interest in the direction the major books are going.
 

radditsu

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I fully agree.

Do you think its our expectations that have changed as we have aged? couple that with the great comic movies and tv (flash/arrow) we have seen has raised the bar on story telling?

Convergence and Secret wars have fully derailed the comic train I was on that was rebirthed by the first Avengers movie.
I actually like the Superman arc. Batman is going to be Batman in the next 2-3 issues. I like SOME of the stuff comics are doing. Individual stuff can be very good. All the robins getting together to take care of problems is great. Jim Gordon as "the establisment" Batman is a good idea to mine to see where it goes. However the Arc linewide is just awful. It always devolves into something cheap. Someone cut's someones arm off. Or someone "shockingly" dies. Then they do not give it room enough to work and grow until there is another "Event" where people have to be at status quo again to "change". Batman's No mans land was....a billion issues? It had time to breathe and work with continuity in a meaningful way.
 

Shonuff

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I fully agree.

Do you think its our expectations that have changed as we have aged? couple that with the great comic movies and tv (flash/arrow) we have seen has raised the bar on story telling?

Convergence and Secret wars have fully derailed the comic train I was on that was rebirthed by the first Avengers movie.
I've read comic books since I was 8. In the last six months or so, I can't even bring myself to download a comic, they are so bad. Marvel has been largely unreadable since the reboot, and DC isn't much better.
 

Shonuff

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Random question: Why does Batman call Plastic Man the most powerful metahuman in the JLA? One instance has Batman as saying that if Plastic Man ever turned evil, than "God help us all." I didn't know stretchy powers were all the deadly, considering the other members of the JLA.
 

Arbitrary

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It's shown up a couple times. The first time I can think of is in The Dark Knight Strikes Back when Batman breaks him out of Arkham and comments on how easy it would be for Plastic Man to kill all of them. He also gets to do some stuff in JLA Trial by Fire where Martian Manhunter becomes Fernus and Batman nabs Plastic Man to help deal with him after he's put over pretty strong jobbing out the Justice League a couple times in a row. Because he's inorganic when he shapeshifts his mind is untouchable by telepathy and something something his other powers.

That's all I got.
 

Lanx

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I've read comic books since I was 8. In the last six months or so, I can't even bring myself to download a comic, they are so bad. Marvel has been largely unreadable since the reboot, and DC isn't much better.
Latest volume of injustice has a nice 2 issue arc w/ plastic man.