EricJuly/youngrippa59/rippaverse, and Ethan van scriver were fighting about something. I have no idea what.
well, actually, looking over video titles. I can't find too muhc, but I think I see mention of tracing/lightboxing.
I think ethan called him out on it and they started fighting?
I suppose I should give my 2cents. without watching the vid fully, or ethans accusations/crits at all.
First off, the end product is what matters most. Tons of great artists use models, use 3d assets, mockups, etc. I would MUCH rather an artist take the time to make a 3d model of a room, and get it right, then freehand it and fuck it up constantly.
I think I mentioned, one of the indie books I did recently having a house exterior... and on the inside a staircase that turned left into a hallway, that could not possibly work from outside. 3 stories inside, a dojo in the attic, that is not possible from the outside.
The issue is largely when they trace, or use models and its just so very obvious, with no real artist imput, or creativity. take the base, add your creativity over it. if I can immediately TELL that its just traced. ew.
The classic perfect example of this was Normal rockwell.
as the notes here outright point out. He took his photo, and exaggerated it all. this is how you do it.
Its a comic book, it should have heightened reality. so just copying 3d assets, porn, or photos is really stupid.
The next issue is then referencing YOUR own photos or art, versus someone elses... Look, I'm not going to pay for a drone shot of NYC skyline, so I think its obvious there is some level that using other peoples photos, art is acceptable. but... just where is that line? thats hard to say.
composition is a big part of the pencillers job. stealing that is a big no-no to me... but at the same time, "homage" is ok, and its ok if you expressly make note of your "borrowing" of it imho.
and, it should be noted. as a customer I'm paying you for YOUR art, not someone elses. so if you are just stealing art. why am I paying you, and not them? which kindof goes back to the original statement on referencing. take the base.. but make it your own, and it can be ok.
..oh, I'm just realizing that elevator door from older posts was from Isom#2. so that was Eric's comic. so was it all from that? yeah, Ethan was right to call his team out on that shit.
I wonder what exactly happened from there? Ethan can be a jackass. Artists make mistakes, I'd just apologize for the screwup. I've certainly made mistakes that got printed. Did Eric not apologize and take it badly? or did Ethan just hound him about it? Ethans business model atm is those livestreams, and picking fights, creating drama...
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as a colorist, do you guys ever say anything if/when you get retarded shit like this, or does the studio just do the best they can (like the "light sources" from the previous post) and cash the check?
