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Ameraves said:
So I've been having this issue with my PC for a while now, and it has gotten to the point that I need to finally fix it. I built this computer maybe 18 months ago, and I have a Samsung 840 EVO as my main OS HD.

For the last 3-4 months whenever I reboot, it takes a good 3 minutes to fully boot up. When I first installed it would take about 15 seconds or so. Is there any quick fixes you guys can think of, or checks I can do to see what is causing it to be so damn slow?
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First thing I would check is your "Event Viewer" log. Look for hardware errors, repeating timeouts, drivers failed to load, etc. That might give you a clue where to start.

Event Viewer is in the Windows Administrative Tools folder. Reboot the machine, load Event Viewer, open the tree view to Custom Views > Administrative Events, and sort by date.

edit: What changed 3 months ago? Did it happen all of a sudden or has it just slowly been getting worse?
 
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If the loading time is due to Windows and not during the bios bootup, it could possibly be a fucked update process getting stuck. Might be worth looking into clearing the windows update cache
 
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As Dom and Noodle pointed out. It really depends on which point is taking the longest. If it's before the Windows logo then your hardware might be stuffed. If it's at the Windows logo or later then odds are it's software. If it's software you can try to see if safe mode boots faster and/or check the logs in Windows.
 
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Alright, so I just rebooted and ran a stop watch to make sure I wasn't crazy. It was at the Asus loading screen for about 3:35, and then the lights on my keyboard lit up and it got to the Windows screen about 10 seconds later.

As for what changed the last 3 months, really nothing that I can recall. I really don't reboot the computer much so it is hard to pinpoint when it actually started happening, I am just estimating.

Here is the event viewer for right after I booted up.

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Fucker

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Quick and easy things..

Run Wise Registry Cleaner

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Reset your BIOS to default. Also, look around in the BIOS for Fullscreen Boot Logo. Turn that off so you can see what the BIOS is doing while the PC is booting.
 
Argarth

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Ameraves said:
Alright, so I just rebooted and ran a stop watch to make sure I wasn't crazy. It was at the Asus loading screen for about 3:35, and then the lights on my keyboard lit up and it got to the Windows screen about 10 seconds later.

As for what changed the last 3 months, really nothing that I can recall. I really don't reboot the computer much so it is hard to pinpoint when it actually started happening, I am just estimating.

Here is the event viewer for right after I booted up.

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My bad, I assumed (yeah I know) you were getting past the Boot screen because you didn't mention it in your first post.

Another simple thing is to unplug all external hardware, and plug back in JUST your KB/Mouse (screen of course) into different USB ports, and preferably a different USB bank if you can.

If they are wireless, just move the receiver to a different bank/port. (or Bluetooth? based on that error at the bottom) See if that changes anything. Quick and dirty.
 
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BIOS is mad at some device in your PC. Agree with unplugging shit.

Do you hear any beeps ? Do PCs still have a POST beep?

Could be the drive
 
Ameraves

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Dom said:
If the loading time is due to Windows and not during the bios bootup, it could possibly be a fucked update process getting stuck. Might be worth looking into clearing the windows update cache
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fred sanford said:
As Dom and Noodle pointed out. It really depends on which point is taking the longest. If it's before the Windows logo then your hardware might be stuffed. If it's at the Windows logo or later then odds are it's software. If it's software you can try to see if safe mode boots faster and/or check the logs in Windows.
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Booted into safe mode, and it took just as long, if not longer, to boot up

Fucker said:
Quick and easy things..

Run Wise Registry Cleaner

Wise Registry Cleaner - Best Free Registry Cleaner - speedup slow PC in one minute

Use Wise Registry Cleaner to clean invalid registry entries, fix Windows registry errors, defragment Windows registry, and keep your PC performing at its best.
www.wisecleaner.com www.wisecleaner.com

Reset your BIOS to default. Also, look around in the BIOS for Fullscreen Boot Logo. Turn that off so you can see what the BIOS is doing while the PC is booting.
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Ran the tool and it cleaned up a bunch of stuff.

Changed the BIOS to fullscreen, and now it just shows the Windows logo instead of the Asus logo after POST and that is where it takes 3+ minutes to fully boot up.
Argarth said:
My bad, I assumed (yeah I know) you were getting past the Boot screen because you didn't mention it in your first post.
Another simple thing is to unplug all external hardware, and plug back in JUST your KB/Mouse (screen of course) into different USB ports, and preferably a different USB bank if you can.
If they are wireless, just move the receiver to a different bank/port. (or Bluetooth? based on that error at the bottom) See if that changes anything. Quick and dirty.
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Tried this as well.

Noodleface said:
BIOS is mad at some device in your PC. Agree with unplugging shit.

Do you hear any beeps ? Do PCs still have a POST beep?

Could be the drive
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No beeps or anything.

So I tried all of the above, and it is still doing the same thing.
 
Ameraves

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Lanx said:
there's actually a setting for booting faster, gets turned off in updates in win10
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That says it doesn't affect Restart. I set it anyway, and same issue
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Do you have ONLY an ssd or do you have other HDDs?

Is your SSD set to AHCI in BIOS (not IDE)?
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I do have other HDD's that are connected via an external enclosure. I had already unplugged those at one point when I tried one of the reboots.

I went through all the BIOS settings and I only saw once place that even mentioned AHCI, and it was set there.
 
Lanx

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did you unplug every drive on the computer except the ssd c:\?

even dvd drives if you have em
 
Ameraves

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Lanx said:
did you unplug every drive on the computer except the ssd c:\?

even dvd drives if you have em
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Yes. I have one cable that goes into the back of the PC which has my 3 other HDD's connected to it in the enclosure. I unplugged that, and I don't have a DVD drive. My SSD was the only one left connected.
 
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Might just be time to bite the bullet and reformat while you still have access to the system to back up everything. Tossing windows on a seperate drive and only having that one connected to see if it still happens would probably be a wise thing to do first though
 
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Run this

CrystalDiskMark

About CrystalDiskMark CrystalDiskMark is a simple disk benchmark software. Download Standard Edition Shizuku Edition System Requirements OS Windows XP/Vista/7/8/8.1/10/11Windows Server 2003/2008/2012/2016/2019/2022 Architecture x86/x64/ARM64 Key Features Important Notice -> FAQ Unit Manual Overvi...
crystalmark.info

Tell us what the score is.

You only need to do one run of 500mb to get an idea of the drive itself is going TU.
 
Ameraves

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Dom said:
Might just be time to bite the bullet and reformat while you still have access to the system to back up everything. Tossing windows on a seperate drive and only having that one connected to see if it still happens would probably be a wise thing to do first though
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Yeah that is what I was afraid of. Most of my data is stored in my external HDD's, so it will really just be re-doing my settings and everything once it is installed.

Fucker said:
Run this

CrystalDiskMark

About CrystalDiskMark CrystalDiskMark is a simple disk benchmark software. Download Standard Edition Shizuku Edition System Requirements OS Windows XP/Vista/7/8/8.1/10/11Windows Server 2003/2008/2012/2016/2019/2022 Architecture x86/x64/ARM64 Key Features Important Notice -> FAQ Unit Manual Overvi...
crystalmark.info

Tell us what the score is.

You only need to do one run of 500mb to get an idea of the drive itself is going TU.
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CrystalDiskMark 6.0.2 x64 (C) 2007-2018 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : Crystal Dew World
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 547.447 MB/s
Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 508.434 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 393.297 MB/s [ 96019.8 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 353.224 MB/s [ 86236.3 IOPS]
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 234.556 MB/s [ 57264.6 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 208.197 MB/s [ 50829.3 IOPS]
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 35.640 MB/s [ 8701.2 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 86.106 MB/s [ 21022.0 IOPS]

Test : 500 MiB [C: 55.5% (128.8/232.3 GiB)] (x5) [Interval=5 sec]
Date : 2019/06/28 16:02:04
OS : Windows 10 [10.0 Build 17134] (x64)
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Not sure what any of that means :)
 
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That length of time during bootup makes me think that there's some sort of (de)compression or (d)encryption going on. Do you have some sort of bitlocker thing going on or anything of the sort?
 
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