Cyberpunk 2077
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Means the game is at least not dead, so that's nice. Not much else, although they might start showing some more stuff later this year at conventions and what not. Still expect a 2020 release or so.
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Yeah, as someone living in Poland this is common practice. Polish people have an incredible work ethic that was beaten into them during the Soviet Era. They work themselves to alcoholism. To depression. You should see them when we go out drinking. They get obliterated because they don't unwind during the week. They put in 12+ hour days every day.
Sad fact is they hardly get any work done. So much time is spent complaining, gossiping and ripping cigs. Work so hard, get so little done. Like a man chipping away at a stone wall with a pair of nail clippers.
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This is the video that started it:
he did a follow up a while later that I haven't watched yet because it is so long.
not sure why this link isn't loading properly in the post -> This video
and this one is one of the more even handed videos I've seen as he includes Devs that defend the studio in the video as well
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he did a follow up a while later that I haven't watched yet because it is so long.
not sure why this link isn't loading properly in the post -> This video
and this one is one of the more even handed videos I've seen as he includes Devs that defend the studio in the video as well
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Amzin
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What's dumb is that's not unique to Poland, although that sounds like an extreme. There's a number of studies that have shown that working even 40 hour weeks ends up with less or worse work than shorter ones, like ~32-34 hour weeks. Companies don't care though because obviously those studies can't be right, they're just science but it FEELS like you have to grind your workers, right?
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Every game studio does this. They can do it because there are scores of people wanting to get in the industry.
These programmers could get a similar paying job in almost any other industry that is less stressful, but they put up with it.
These programmers could get a similar paying job in almost any other industry that is less stressful, but they put up with it.
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What's dumb is that's not unique to Poland, although that sounds like an extreme. There's a number of studies that have shown that working even 40 hour weeks ends up with less or worse work than shorter ones, like ~32-34 hour weeks. Companies don't care though because obviously those studies can't be right, they're just science but it FEELS like you have to grind your workers, right?
I definitely agree that the more hours you have people work, the more time they'll spend trying to avoid as much work as possible.
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From what I've heard, I think Paradox Studios is the only major gaming studio that has a bearable work ethic, but even they throw it out the window around game/patch releases. In fact, from what I've heard, most software companies are like this, and more often than not the overtime isn't paid for, or is "part of your basic salary".
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A lot of game developer studios are in a tough spot because they actually don't have massive cash reserves or stable flows of it, so they don't even have the option of being the good guys and just hiring more coders. Some (cough EA cough) are just corporate jackasses like the rest of the world though.