Dark Souls 2

Needless · Apr 28, 2014

milliseconds? lolwut, the big weapons are slow as fuck and have huge recovery.

Elerion · Apr 28, 2014

Raes_sl said:
I figured out why I find the game boring. DS1 was a good mix of strategy and manual dexterity. You fucked up and died, you figured out why and changed your tactics and/or improved your skill at combat. DS2 is 100% manual dexterity and I've never found pressing buttons quickly to be all that thrilling. All the added difficulty is just gamey shit. Slow the hero down, speed the mobs up, and throw 3, 4, 5 at you at a time.

I also wish weapons were balanced better. Normal sized weapons vs 2h type weapons. 2h's get much more damage and far greater range, and what's the trade-off? A few more milliseconds of recovery time? I can't really tell.

You should probably go play a game that you aren't so bad at. I think there's a new Lego game out.

If you're unable to figure out how to improve your odds through strategy, or so inept that you can't tell that light 1-handers have certain advantages over heavy 2-handers, this game probably isn't for you.

DS2 is 100% manual dexterity and I've never found pressing buttons quickly to be all that thrilling.

Hatorade · Apr 28, 2014

That is right Raes learn to fucking play or uninstall.
-The internet

Skanda · Apr 28, 2014

I bet your hard drive RPMs are low too, you fucking bad!

Dabamf_sl · Apr 28, 2014

The KB/m complaints are so tired. Yea, it's dumb, but why the fuck don't you have a gamepad from DS1. Just get over it. Christ

I'm not sure what happened on the cleric I started, but I rolled a sorc to try out a hex build and I died more in the first 3 hours than I did in 12 on my FIRST runthrough with cleric-->str build. Cleric start felt so so easy. Heal is badass early game. Mace is the tits. But I just did SO much more damage with the cleric even after rushing to dark spells on the sorc.

Needless · Apr 28, 2014

Sorc is definitely weaker at the beginning, but they end up very strong if you end up going dark/hex and faith
I probably should have started as a cleric to begin with and went for that build, at least that way i could use more than a dagger as a melee weapon lol (yes i know i can just pop a few points into str/dex and use something else but what fun is that)

Raes · Apr 28, 2014

Elerion_sl said:
You should probably go play a game that you aren't so bad at. I think there's a new Lego game out.

If you're unable to figure out how to improve your odds through strategy, or so inept that you can't tell that light 1-handers have certain advantages over heavy 2-handers, this game probably isn't for you.

Wow, dude. Thank you for diagnosing my MPD. I had no idea I had written a post where I said the game was too hard. I better call a shrink and get on meds right away.

@Skanda Actually, they are.

Too poor to upgrade right now.

Raes · Apr 28, 2014

Dabamf_sl said:
The KB/m complaints are so tired. Yea, it's dumb, but why the fuck don't you have a gamepad from DS1. Just get over it. Christ

If you read the fucking thread you'd have seen where I mentioned that I forgot to pack my 2 controllers when I moved from Cali to Texas, and I can't fucking afford to buy a new one right now. And it's not continuous complaining, it's merely responding to others. So, in short, fuck you.

Joeboo · Apr 28, 2014

I think I went the wrong way. After downing the giant and Pursuer dude, I flew via the bird over to the new area and now I'm stuck at those 3 sentinel dudes(the one on the ledge and then the other 2 attack) I've died to the simultaneous 2 like 20 times. I try to avoid looking at any spoilers unless I'm totally stuck, I saw IGNs guide online, and their bosses were listed in such an order that they had like 5 or 6 bosses listed before these sentinel guys.

I must have totally missed an area(or multiple areas) somewhere, but wouldn't it make sense to take the bird that you get access to after beating the Pursuer?

Hatorade · Apr 28, 2014

joeboo_sl said:
I think I went the wrong way. After downing the giant and Persuer dude, I flew via the bird over to the new area and now I'm stuck at those 3 sentinel dudes(the one on the ledge and then the other 2 attack) I've died to the simultaneous 2 like 20 times. I try to avoid looking at any spoilers unless I'm totally stuck, I saw IGNs guide online, and their bosses were listed in such an order that they had like 2 or 3 bosses listed before these sentinel guys.

I must have totally missed an area somewhere, but wouldn't it make sense to take the bird that you get access to after beating the Persuer?

Yeah head back the other way, 3 sentinels is going to be a few more levels.

Joeboo · Apr 28, 2014

Hatorade_sl said:
Yeah head back the other way, 3 sentinels is going to be a few more levels.

Do I need to get the falling reduction ring to be drop down the hole back in town? Otherwise, I don't remember seeing another possible route.

Skanda · Apr 28, 2014

joeboo_sl said:
Do I need to get the falling reduction ring to be drop down the hole back in town? Otherwise, I don't remember seeing another possible route.

Go into the chapel in town and it'll lead to another area.

nate_sl · Apr 28, 2014

joeboo_sl said:
Do I need to get the falling reduction ring to be drop down the hole back in town? Otherwise, I don't remember seeing another possible route.

Yeah but if you can't handle the 3 sents the hole will be a nightmare. You are correct, you need to go back to town and go down a new path. The entrance to where you want to go will be blocked but there's a way to open it.

Lenas · Apr 28, 2014

Joe, go back to Majula and take the pathway through the mountain right before the Champion's Tablet, that will lead you to Heide's Tower of Flame where you can pick up the HP ring and farm some good souls, 500+ per mob. There is also a single spawn enemy that will drop an item to +1 your flasks.

Don't go into the cathedral yet unless you wanna get face-raped.

Raes · Apr 28, 2014

Lenas_sl said:
Joe, go back to Majula and take the pathway through the mountain right before the Champion's Tablet, that will lead you to Heide's Tower of Flame where you can pick up the HP ring and farm some good souls, 500+ per mob. There is also a single spawn enemy that will drop an item to +1 your flasks.

And don't do like I did and get a double kill and lose the fucking drop.

nate_sl · Apr 28, 2014

Raes_sl said:
I figured out why I find the game boring. DS1 was a good mix of strategy and manual dexterity. You fucked up and died, you figured out why and changed your tactics and/or improved your skill at combat. DS2 is 100% manual dexterity and I've never found pressing buttons quickly to be all that thrilling. All the added difficulty is just gamey shit. Slow the hero down, speed the mobs up, and throw 3, 4, 5 at you at a time.

I also wish weapons were balanced better. Normal sized weapons vs 2h type weapons. 2h's get much more damage and far greater range, and what's the trade-off? A few more milliseconds of recovery time? I can't really tell.

Sounds to me like your issues with 1 handed weapons are related to the problems with m/kb controls.

One handers are definitely not weak, and I much prefer them to 2-handers. They are essential for fighting multiple mobs because you can attack quickly and still have enough time/stamina to get your shield up or roll away from the other mobs attacks. However they probably do suck if you can't attack quickly because of m/kb.

This is a part of the strategy element that you claim is missing.

Vaclav · Apr 28, 2014

Lenas_sl said:
Joe, go back to Majula and take the pathway thirough the mountain right before the Champion's Tablet, that will lead you to Heide's Tower of Flame where you can pick up the HP ring and farm some good souls, 500+ per mob. There is also a single spawn enemy that will drop an item to +1 your flasks.

Don't go into the cathedral yet unless you wanna get face-raped.

Cathedral boss isn't that bad. I found him far easier than Pursuer myself. Almost completely optional though so no rush.

Joeboo · Apr 28, 2014

Damn, I must be blind then. I ran back to the champions tablet several times and never noticed a path through the mountains. Thanks guys.

Raes · Apr 28, 2014

nate_sl said:
Sounds to me like your issues with 1 handed weapons are related to the problems with m/kb controls.

One handers are definitely not weak, and I much prefer them to 2-handers. They are essential for fighting multiple mobs because you can attack quickly and still have enough time/stamina to get your shield up or roll away from the other mobs attacks. However they probably do suck if you can't attack quickly because of m/kb.

This is a part of the strategy element that you claim is missing.

Hmmm, that sounds interesting. There's a few shitty workarounds using AHK, that I haven't wanted to fuck with just yet, but if it will make my 1h weapons swing faster I might just have to. Thanks for the tip.

Vorph · Apr 28, 2014

Some modding stuff:

GeDoSaTowas updated again just recently and 0.3 fixes the ugly banding effect that his SSAO implementation was causing.

And for people using the correct input device:PS3 UI Buttons at Dark Souls 2 Nexus(GeDoSaTo required -- turn on texture overrides in the ini)

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