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Ambiturner

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Marvel and DC both do stupid amounts of multiverse stuff. It's hard to say who is copying who. DC is up in the air right now and they may have to ditch the problem child Flash.

What?

I'm specifically talking about the gimmick of using previous superhero actors in new movies.

Thought Spiderman started it but thinking about it I think the CW shows did something like that a couple years back.

Not positive since I stopped watching them after the first couple seasons and the quality went to shit
 
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Chukzombi

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wiki says that DC introduced the Multiverse in 1940 and then again in 1953 with a mirror world in Wonder Woman. i think Marvel introduced theirs in the 1970s. i also think Marvel copied the fuck out of DC's comic characters. Marvel just has way better movie adaptions.
 

Goatface

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Constantine The House of Mystery animated short was pretty good. looks like next full length will be john stewart's gl
 

Animosity

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I like how he says he does it so he can sell the arrests as NFT's lol
 
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Animosity

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old one. hopefully more of this comes out. WB supposedly is ride or die for this faggot , at least until after Flash comes out.
Its funny because so many people want him cancelled now. And what a coincidence all these early screenings are saying the Flash movie is soooo good.

Ya fucking right.
 
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Chukzombi

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Its funny because so many people want him cancelled now. And what a coincidence all these early screenings are saying the Flash movie is soooo good.

Ya fucking right.
fantasic beasts was a bomb, Flash better kick ass or his career is over, along with other execs at WB.
 

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EXCLUSIVE: Tom Ascheim is leaving his post as President Of Warner Bros. Global Kids, Young Adults and Classic two years after he joined WarnerMedia and a month after that company’s merger with Discovery was completed. He is one of two senior programming executives on the WarnerMedia side of the company who are departing after their positions have been eliminated following the merger, along with Brett Weitz, General Manager of TNT, TBS and TruTV. Both will stay on for a brief transition period.

In his role, Ascheim, a respected veteran TV executive, oversaw Cartoon Network, Adult Swim and Boomerang, the studios of Cartoon Network and Warner Bros Animation in Los Angeles, and had global responsibility for the Turner Classic Movies channel. Iconic IP, series and characters under his purview included Looney Tunes, DC’s animated Super Heroes, Rick and Morty, Craig of the Creek, the classic Hanna-Barbera library, Tom and Jerry, Scooby-Doo. He subsequently added oversight of kids and family programming for HBO Max as well as Warner Bros.’ Harry Potter franchise and Wizarding World properties.
 

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It’s out with the old and in with the new at The CW. After canceling seven of its shows, the network has ordered three brand new series to freshen up its lineup. Gotham Knights, Walker: Independence and The Winchesters have all been greenlit by The CW, shortly after Charmed; Dynasty; Roswell, New Mexico; The 4400, In the Dark and Naomi were all axed, according to The Hollywood Reporter. In addition, Legacies was canceled later on in the evening, bringing The Vampire Diaries franchise to a close after 13 years.


Gotham Knights, a one-hour drama joining the network’s 2022-23 broadcast season, takes place after the murder of Bruce Wayne, although The CW notes it is not a Batwoman spinoff. The upcoming series follows Bruce’s “rebellious adopted son,” played by Oscar Morgan, who “forges an unlikely alliance with the children of Batman’s enemies when they are all framed for killing the Caped Crusader.” When Gotham “descends into the most dangerous it’s ever been,” Oscar and his “team of mismatched fugitives” have to protect the city in Batman’s absence.


Another CW addition, Walker: Independence, is also an hour-long drama, but it takes place far from the city and back in time. Set in the 1800s, the show tells the story of Abby Walker (Katherine McNamara), who seeks revenge after the murder of her husband and connect with Hoyt Rawlins (Matt Barr) along the way. While traveling together, the duo struggles “with the changing world around them, while becoming agents of change themselves in a town where nothing is what it seems,” per the show’s logline.
 

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The Flash had Tom Cavanagh play a different multiverse version of Harrison Wells every season.
Not to mention John Wesley-Ship as various alternate Flashes and Barry's dad. Before that you had Reeve in Smallville and even Adam West in Batman TAS. Theres a long history of it in comic series/cartoons over the years.
 

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wiki says that DC introduced the Multiverse in 1940 and then again in 1953 with a mirror world in Wonder Woman. i think Marvel introduced theirs in the 1970s. i also think Marvel copied the fuck out of DC's comic characters. Marvel just has way better movie adaptions.
DC had the largest cannon storyline for multiple universes with the entire Earth 2 Justice Society books that ran concurrently and crossed over frequently with the JLA books of the time. They tried to reset it at various points, because it got out of hand, with the Crisis event, then again with Zero Hour and other resets, but they always came back to the multiverse shit over and over. Outside of Kang, Marvel did not dabble in it nearly to the degree that DC did in the comic books.

But yeah they both copied each other a lot, mostly due to the fact that they kept passing Jack Kirby back and forth like a party favor. A lot of his ideas were similar in both companies, which is how you end up with the Fourth World/Inhuman shit and the street level heroes in both companies sharing a lot of similarities. Not to mention other creatives at both places ripping off Kirby's ideas (Thanos being a Darkseid ripoff being the most famous example).
 
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Rajaah

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Wonder if there's anything stopping them from recasting Flash as the guy from the TV show going forward. Make that an alternate dimension Flash who ends up superceding Ezra Flash by the end of the movie. Ton of people out there see Show Flash as the real one anyway. Also reset everything back to the time of Man of Steel and do everything over again differently by having the new Flash defeat Zod and then set out to gather the Justice League earlier / in another timeline or something. IDK.

And they really need to recast Heard in Aquaman, don't care if it delays the movie another six months. Reshoot all her moments with a new actress and digitally replace her. Probably wouldn't need to haul anyone else back in if they did it right.
 

Chukzombi

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Wonder if there's anything stopping them from recasting Flash as the guy from the TV show going forward. Make that an alternate dimension Flash who ends up superceding Ezra Flash by the end of the movie. Ton of people out there see Show Flash as the real one anyway. Also reset everything back to the time of Man of Steel and do everything over again differently by having the new Flash defeat Zod and then set out to gather the Justice League earlier / in another timeline or something. IDK.

And they really need to recast Heard in Aquaman, don't care if it delays the movie another six months. Reshoot all her moments with a new actress and digitally replace her. Probably wouldn't need to haul anyone else back in if they did it right.
people say because Grant Gustin (TVs Barry Allen) is a TV star and not "strong enough" to carry a big movie. which is fucking bullshit. they are just scared to replace that fucking fruitloop Ezra with a shitlord heterosexual man.
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Animosity

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Ya no one bought that bullshit. Grant's version of the Flash was so liked when they announced that movie. No one gave a fuck about Ezra and he barely even know. If Chris Pratt can go from Fat Andy to beefcake Starlord super star, anyone can.
 
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Gavinmad

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people say because Grant Gustin (TVs Barry Allen) is a TV star and not "strong enough" to carry a big movie.
Except they aren't exactly wrong because he was never even carrying his own show. Tom Cavanagh (and to a lesser extent Jesse Martin) are the strong presences on that show. Maybe Gustin could do better if he wasn't hamstrung by the CW's shitty direction and writing but he is far from an obvious choice over pre-Hawaii Miller.
 

Chukzombi

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Except they aren't exactly wrong because he was never even carrying his own show. Tom Cavanagh (and to a lesser extent Jesse Martin) are the strong presences on that show. Maybe Gustin could do better if he wasn't hamstrung by the CW's shitty direction and writing but he is far from an obvious choice over pre-Hawaii Miller.
what film has Ezra Miller carried? i mean yeah he was a very minor role in Fantastic Beasts and the Snyder DC films, but he was in very little of that. Grant Gustin was the lead role in Flash for 7 or 8 years and as bad as that show has become and how shitty the scripts are he still gave it his best. and i dont hear about him abusing women every week. and because of that show everyone knows him as The Flash. i think he has more appeal with women too. normal chicks are not into that freak Ezra. Aquaman didnt do well because its a good movie, its a crap movie that is dumb fun. women went to see Aquaman because they want to sex down Momoa. Gustin is a much safer choice. he deserves at least a shot. multiverse him in as a cameo and see what happens