Demon’s Souls Remake (PS5)

Rajaah · Nov 19, 2020

Vorph said:
Any word on Pure Moonlightstone? I'm definitely playing BBS as my first build, but getting the offhand Moon Uchi to +5 was always a crapshoot unless you save scummed the crystal lizards. Should be interesting to see if I can still beat all of world 5 having only done 1-1 and a tiny bit of 4-1 (crescent falchion) beforehand.

Crystal lizards respawn like regular enemies now (pretty sure they didn't before) so all ore-collecting is much faster than I remember. Bosses can drop Pure stones and I believe I got 3 different ones from that on my first run through of the game.

World 5 was easy for me the first time, but now on NG+ it's giving me way more difficulty than any other world. Bogs that keep you from rolling while the enemies have full mobility are pretty fucking obnoxious.

Vorph · Nov 19, 2020

Rajaah said:
World 5 was easy for me the first time, but now on NG+ it's giving me way more difficulty than any other world. Bogs that keep you from rolling while the enemies have full mobility are pretty fucking obnoxious.

The new Sodden Ring doesn't help with that?

Rajaah · Nov 19, 2020

Don't have any of the new rings yet. They're basically all I have left to do besides the two character tendency rings and NG++ spell cleanup.

Szlia · Nov 19, 2020

I hope they patch that luck thing or you know trolls will use it and then invade people all day long.

Zaide · Nov 19, 2020

I think I rank this as my number 2 Souls game under DS1. I did love the original but it felt very clunky even back in the day. I think the remake does a great job of removing that clunkiness without sacrificing the spirit of the game.

I still want to do a few more runs to compare since I have done DS1 like 15 times.

Daezuel · Nov 19, 2020

I love this game. I liked it on PS3, but the resolution/framerates/2 minute+ loads really hurt the game.

It does feel a lot easier now with 60fps and instant load times, but fuck it, I don't care.

Utnayan · Nov 19, 2020

Just cheesed the spider with my bow and arrow lol. Almost had him melee too the first time. Got oiled right at the last second.

Rajaah · Nov 19, 2020

Where'd you guys farm the Gold Coin? I'm closing in on the plat and need one for one of the rings. I'm farming the Fat Official in Yuria's Tower but I'm wondering if there's a better one that's closer to an archstone.

Edit: This thing ain't dropping

Rajaah · Nov 20, 2020

Zaide said:
I think I rank this as my number 2 Souls game under DS1. I did love the original but it felt very clunky even back in the day. I think the remake does a great job of removing that clunkiness without sacrificing the spirit of the game.

I still want to do a few more runs to compare since I have done DS1 like 15 times.

I'd rank the first Dark at #1 in terms of world design and gameplay, with this second and Dark 2 a distant third. Dark 2 felt more like a B-Team production (which it was, IIRC)

If Bloodborne counts as a Souls game I'd put it between Dark and this, just a shade under Dark.

Haven't played Dark 3 yet, saving it since it's my last opportunity to experience a Souls game for the first time.

Ambiturner · Nov 20, 2020

Have DS3 as easily #1. The combat just feels so much more fluid than the other games and the bosses by far the most epic. Darkeater Midir is a damn masterpiece

Zaide · Nov 20, 2020

DS3 feels overproduced to me. It felt like every room and hall had 3-8 enemies.

I haven’t played it since I beat I the first time but I would say 3 is my least favorite souls game. My list is probably:

DS1
DeSR
BB
DS2
DS3
Sekiro (if we count it as this category it’s the worst imo)

Ritley · Nov 20, 2020

DkS 1 would have been a lot better if fast travel was unlocked earlier (and to more bonfires).

Angerz · Nov 20, 2020

Szlia said:
I hope they patch that luck thing or you know trolls will use it and then invade people all day long.

I think you only invade people close to you in soul level, like within 10%+/-? So it would only be people who had also done it, or were a ridiculously high level themselves

Rajaah · Nov 20, 2020

Zaide said:
DS3 feels overproduced to me. It felt like every room and hall had 3-8 enemies.

I haven’t played it since I beat I the first time but I would say 3 is my least favorite souls game. My list is probably:

DS1
DeSR
BB
DS2
DS3
Sekiro (if we count it as this category it’s the worst imo)

Yeah I tried Sekiro and couldn't get into it because of how different it was. I like the Souls games where you have a range of options/weapons to deal with situations and Sekiro felt one-dimensional in comparison (get good at parrying, that's your option).

IMO Nioh is more of a Souls game even though it was made by a different company. That one is damn good from what I've played. No clue about Nioh 2.

Edit: I'm pretty close to getting 100% in this (missing six rings and a couple needed boss souls). Man, I can feel the powah. Still haven't gotten a damn Gold Coin though.

Rajaah · Nov 21, 2020

Was about to go buy Nioh and play it next while I'm on a Souls kick, since it's $6 right now. Noticed the complete edition is $24 (digital only) and wasn't sure whether to get it instead. However my dilemma was answered for me, because it looks like there's a PS5 remaster of Nioh+Nioh 2+all expansions on the way in February. That's huge news for Souls fans, surprised I didn't hear about it sooner. I'll skip buying it for now.

Szlia · Nov 21, 2020

I have not played it, but it should be noted that some Souls fans consider Nioh to be trash tier, with Nioh 2 being better but not great. As I understand it, the problem with Nioh is that the difficulty is extremely cheap while in Souls game the difficulty is pretty fair.

Ambiturner · Nov 21, 2020

Nioh felt more ninja gaiden than souls to me.

Vorph · Nov 21, 2020

Sekiro is far more like Ninja Gaiden than Nioh is. Nioh's just a Souls-like game with a Diablo-style loot system.

I definitely wouldn't say Nioh or Nioh 2 are 'cheap' either. If anything it's the opposite; they start out fairly difficult but once you get a proper set of gear and skills you're basically unstoppable. Biggest flaw of Nioh is the gear system and how it makes you sort through piles upon piles of shit to find that one item that's actually useful. Nioh 2's biggest flaw is that they fixed most of that when it was released and then brought back the worst 'features' (and some new ones) for the DLC expansions.

Njals · Nov 21, 2020

Nioh felt a lot more grindy and rng to me than any of the souls titles. I ended up giving up on the first Nioh right after beating the frog boss out of boredom rather than frustration. Haven't tried 2 yet but will probably give it a go if I see it super cheap someday.

Zaide · Nov 21, 2020

I really loved Nioh at first but by mid to late game I disliked it because it became more diablo and less dark souls. I dislike Sekiro because it’s got almost no RPG elements at all. I really love games where I can level up, invest in stats, craft gear etc.

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