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AlekseiFL_sl

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Celebrindal_sl said:
Ok, so I decided to go with the 670. With the money I saved, I went with 16GB over 8GB of RAM, the 3570 Ivy bridge and a 2TB over 1TB hard drive. I swapped out the Corsair SSD for a Samsung. Take a look at the build again and tell me what you guys think.

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Again, like I said, I already have a DVD drive, Mouse, Keyboard, Monitor and Windows 8 Pro. I also have two External Hard Drives (3TB total)
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Good choice on the card Evga 670 cards rock 1 let alone if wanna add 2nd, 3rd or have money to blow like me have 4 them in 1 my rigs, which is just fucking overkill, will never do that again.

The Evga 670 FTW 2 gig card is overclocked but stable as hell that is why it has the FTW in the name if you did not know.

Also at new Egg you get 3 games worth 150 bucks atm with it free, so cant go wrong.

Normally dont get more then 3 cards per rig did 4 with them its just insane.

As said the 670 cards run cooler then the 680 and less power and just about as good, not to mention cheaper.

Also Evga will allow you to download evga scanner and precision make sure you do it, keep them updated, can with that software see hot hot your GPU or Muti SLI GPU's are running , can also set the fan speed of each to Auto so if card heats up will run the fan faster etc, Kick ass software and support from them.
 
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Most people that spend a ton of money on a PC, do it thinking that it'll last them a lot longer. What I tried to convince a friend of once, who wanted to spend $3000 on a gaming computer build, is that no matter what you put in that PC today, all absolute top of the line stuff, it's going to suck in 2-3 years for gaming. You can throw 3 7970 graphics cards in a PC and spend $1200 just on graphics hardware, but it's going to suck compared to a $300 video card in about 2 years or so. A $3000 PC now might not suck until year #3, instead of year 2 had you only spent $1000. It'l get you a little further, but not anywhere near 3x further, not even 2x further really

I always recommend building a step or two under the current bleeding edge, but re-build/upgrade more often.

I'd much rather spend $1000 building a PC every other year than spend 3 grand and convince myself I'll be good for 5 or 6 years. You end up spending the same amount of money over time, but the incremental build/upgrade gives you a MUCH better PC beyond year 2, that uber $3000 build is only a beast in year 1 or 2.

Buddy of mine still blew 3 grand on a build a few years back, now he's rocking those SLI Nvidia 285s, they aren't doing so well anymore. They were awesome 4 years ago when he paid like $1000 for the pair or something ridiculous, but not so awesome the last couple years.
 
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I'm going to Micro Center tomorrow to pick up the case, cpu, and mobo and hard drive. The rest I will pick up at Newegg. The last thing I'm thinking about right now is the CPU cooler. So many people like the EVO 212, so I was just going to go with that.
 
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mkopec_sl said:
For one CZ SSDs are terrible! they have like the worst failure rate out of any of the SSD manufacturers. Stay away from that shit.
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OCZ drives are no worse than the competition, seeing as everyone at one point or another has put out bad drives.

Most people that spend a ton of money on a PC, do it thinking that it'll last them a lot longer. What I tried to convince a friend of once, who wanted to spend $3000 on a gaming computer build, is that no matter what you put in that PC today, all absolute top of the line stuff, it's going to suck in 2-3 years for gaming. You can throw 3 7970 graphics cards in a PC and spend $1200 just on graphics hardware, but it's going to suck compared to a $300 video card in about 2 years or so. A $3000 PC now might not suck until year #3, instead of year 2 had you only spent $1000. It'l get you a little further, but not anywhere near 3x further, not even 2x further really
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Depends, as my 4 year old PC that I spent $1500 on(i7 920, 6GB 1600mhz memory, GTX295, 24inch monitor) didnt really have a problem until BF3 came out(even then that was on 64 player servers). Graphically wise games have really stagnated due to long life of the current console generation.
 
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Shrug old computers make good gifts to people still rocking shitty dells. I'll likely even build another before the year is up, i just like to build them in the end. I have a cooler master cosmos 2 i need to use to build something at some point.
 
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Big Phoenix_sl said:
OCZ drives are no worse than the competition, seeing as everyone at one point or another has put out bad drives.
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Not so much. OCZ had a failure rate 488% higher than Intel in 2010. Keep in mind, failure rates are only a % of RMA rates, which OCZ led every other manufacturer due to buggy firmware. Industry leading high RMA rates cost the founder of OCZ his job, very nearly put OCZ out of business, and most recently led to OCZ withdrawing their primary focus from the consumer side of the NAND business to (laughs)enterprise.

It's hard to find recent data on OCZ SSD's because people aren't buying them.
 
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CORSAIR CARBIDE 500R ATX CASE BLK1139.99139.99

035402SAMSUNG E 256GB SSD 840 PRO2.5SATA31224.99224.99

425470INTEL BOX INTEL CORE I5-3570K1189.99189.99







788547EVGA **GTX670 FTW LE 2GB D5 PC1409.99409.99

297325CORSAIR 16GB 2X8 1600 D3 DIMM C10199.9999.99

546341ARCSLVR SLVR5 HD THERMAL CMP 3.517.997.99

909127WD 2TB 3.5 SATA 7200RPM BK1169.99169.99

380519GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H 1155 ATX194.9994.99







888438COOLMAST HYPER 212 EVO UNIV HSF129.9929.99




















So that is what I purchased at Micro Center today. All I'm missing is the Power Supply, which I ordered from Newegg. I still got the $150 in-game cash for Planetside 2, World of Tanks and Hawken.

I can't get it up and running tonight because of no power supply, but the question is, should I build it anyway...
 
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I honestly don't see the value in going shit crazy on a desktop if it's just for gaming. I spent about $1,500 on a self built computer over three years ago and I still run everything maxed out, and I don't see that changing any time soon.

OCZ drives are a nightmare, I had nothing but problems with my Vertex 3.
 
Celebrindal

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Installed everything, all I'm waiting on is the power supply. Hopefully when it gets here in a few days this shit POSTS immediately. I had a little problem fitting the Heatsink on there, I put the brackets on reversed which caused the heatsink to slide on the CPU.
 
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POST on the first power up. Machine is so quiet I didn't realize it turned on.
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Joeboo

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Crank that CPU up to a 42 multiplier or so. Should be able to reach that easily without jacking with the voltage at all. You can probably go higher with that 212 Evo cooler if you want to start messing with the voltage. At the very least, go to 4200mhz, i've rarely seen a 3570k processor that can't do that out of the box with no issues.
 
mkopec

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I tried 4.5 on mine but I got crashes. So I throttled it down to 4.3, ran prime for a few hours, and everything is stable. 25C idle 60C 100% load. not bad for a $30 cooler.
 
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gogusrl_sl said:
The Artic Silver that he got does. 200 hours or some shit.
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It sets in by exposing it to high temperature, does it not? So the higher the temp, the better it sets in. All that is moot because these new processors throttle down to 1.6 when not in use anyways. They only spike to the limit when they need it. So unless your running prime on this thing, it really does not mater what clock speed you have it set to, chances are it will be at idle.

BTW, on my older i5 2500k machine I went out of my way to buy some shin etsu compound, (supposed to be like one of the best) This time I used the stuff that came with the cooler master 212 EVO and I see no difference. Maybe a +/- C here or there, but nothing drastic enough to warrant spending any money on any other thermal compound and just using the shit that came with the 212 EVO.

Edit: here is a chart basically saying that all these thermal compounds are all within a few C of eachother. Maybe it makes a difference if you are trying to get to 5GHZ or some shit, but on a regular application it really makes no difference. Check out the alternative compounds as well, like mustard and mayonayse...etc... those didnt do to bad either. Its fucking snake oil!

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Not sure what the 212 evo comes with, but I once won a bet proving to a friend that there will be at least a 10C difference between AS5 and some shit you could buy at the local store for ~1$. I had like 5 thermal compounds at one point during my hardware tweaking phase, now I just buy a new tube of AS5 every 1-2 years when I upgrade and use the rest on friends and relative's computers.

Anyway, there's no way you idle at 25C unless your room temp is like 10C or your blasting that fan at full speed.

edit : best open source hardware monitoring software =>http://openhardwaremonitor.org/
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mkopec

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Not sure what the 212 evo comes with, but I once won a bet proving to a friend that there will be at least a 10C difference between AS5 and some shit you could buy at the local store for ~1$. I had like 5 thermal compounds at one point during my hardware tweaking phase, now I just buy a new tube of AS5 every 1-2 years when I upgrade and use the rest on friends and relative's computers.

Anyway, there's no way you idle at 25C unless your room temp is like 10C or your blasting that fan at full speed.

edit : best open source hardware monitoring software =>http://openhardwaremonitor.org/
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We keep our house at 68F, so that equates to 20C. I have a Cooler Master HEF case with 4 12CM cheap fans 1600rpm I think and the 212 EVO which is controlled by mobo. And idle temps are 25C. I will post this when I get home later. BTW that chart above proves your 10C difference as false. Again, its snake oil, dude.

That chart above the temps listed are the difference between ambient room temp and the processor at full load.
 
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