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Sludig
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So what's a "better" DDR4? Thought at one point best speed isn't best ram neccesarily, dont know dick about timings etc. Just grab the cheapest Gskill ripsaw 32gb 3600 mhz or?
Sludig
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Ouch. Granted can drop several hundred off assuming I get lucky with the 3080 closer to 12-1400 mark eventually.
Mist
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Best bet is just camping Best Buy's website every other Thursday and hoping to get a Founders Edition
Mist
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Amazon product ASIN B075HQDYDN
This is extremely good memory. It is pretty much the best binned Samsung B-Die you can get that runs CL14 @ 1.35v. Anything C14 with higher clock speeds than 3200 requires bumping up to 1.45v which really limits your compatibility.
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Jovec
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NVMe drives are almost commodities now, and in most cases one has to benchmark to see differences. I've run a value Silicon Power 1TB gen 3 drive, 970 Evo+ gen3, and now a 980pro Gen 4 and I doubt I could tell which was which in day-to-day usage. I do agree that PCIe4 NVMe drives are the way to go now though, if only because that hyped direct-streaming feature might be worth something in the future.
CAS Latency (CL) and Speed are the two main specs you want to look for, but this is also changes by capacity. Good 8GB sticks at CL14 are common, but 16GB sticks will probably be CL16 and 32GB sticks CL18 unless you want to pay through the nose. You can find good pricing on 2x8gb 3200 CL14 or 2x16GB 3600 CL 16 - those are probably the sweet spots.
Sludig
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They have a 2x16gb in case I'm retarded and think i'll actually benefit with my 60 chrome tabs and inneficiently coded Tarkov? Or would I want to run 4x8 though I thought I had read something about sticks being better when it's consolidated into less sticks, or the stick itself being built with bigger memory chips or whatever.
Mist
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If you're investing in 32GB of RAM I'd just make the jump to DDR5. I would not buy 32GB of DDR4 at this point.
That was actually what sealed the deal for me.
Kirun
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The difference in speeds are pretty negligible. 4x8 "looks" cleaner, but 2x16 allows for a possible 64gb, if you ever decide to go that route - that's my one regret for going for 4x8 for aesthetic reasons.
Skinner
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Intel boards historically are good for 2 generations so unless something changes Raptor Lake should use the same socket as Alder Lake. It’s all still back channel rumored, but Raptor Lake is expected to be 10-15% improvement over Alder Lake with double the cache and double the ecores. If I wanted/had to build a gaming pc now i’d go with the 12700k AL and the fastest DDR4 and then start paying attention to tech again around 2024-2025 with Meteor and Lunar Lake, with my eye particularly focused on Gen 15 Lunar Lake.
Either way processors now can run anything and will run just about everything for several years to come and I’m not aware of any groundbreaking games down the pipe, so imo it’s all about how bad do you want a pc now? We’re already half way through Q1 and Q3 is close enough that for me, I’m okay with holding for Raptor. The next biggest gains outside of the 40xx gpu’s will be from better DDR5 timings but I’m not sure we’ll get to that point in time for Q3 this year.
I feel like we’re in an interesting point pc gaming wise where nearly any decision you make will be great and relatively “future proof” but each year we can expect significant gains from something.
Either way processors now can run anything and will run just about everything for several years to come and I’m not aware of any groundbreaking games down the pipe, so imo it’s all about how bad do you want a pc now? We’re already half way through Q1 and Q3 is close enough that for me, I’m okay with holding for Raptor. The next biggest gains outside of the 40xx gpu’s will be from better DDR5 timings but I’m not sure we’ll get to that point in time for Q3 this year.
I feel like we’re in an interesting point pc gaming wise where nearly any decision you make will be great and relatively “future proof” but each year we can expect significant gains from something.
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Keystone
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So, I decided it's time to finally replace my old desktop. I've been living off a MSI GS63 Stealth laptop for a while which gets the job done for the most part but lately i've stalled out sometimes whiel running 3-4 poker sites / streaming video and or running a mmo on the side. With that said I don't "need" a ton out of a pc and budget is fairly flexible, but I'm thinking given my primary use is online poker + 20 year old MMO's for the most part it isn't as big of a decision as I am making it.
Probably been looking in the $1500 range and hoping to find something that can get built and shipped fairly quickly. Main things I've been hoping to find are essentially a 1TB ssd, been looking at 3060/3060 ti's (just because that's kind of the sweet spot for pricing it looks like currently but open to 3050's if it saves me a bunch of $ as well?). and at least 16gb of ram would prefer 32 (I'm fairly sure my 16gb on my laptop has choked out at various times as well, maybe i'ts just not great ram?) - processor wise I'm completely open to suggestions as well.
Basically anyone have some amazing deals going on currently they can point me toward?
Probably been looking in the $1500 range and hoping to find something that can get built and shipped fairly quickly. Main things I've been hoping to find are essentially a 1TB ssd, been looking at 3060/3060 ti's (just because that's kind of the sweet spot for pricing it looks like currently but open to 3050's if it saves me a bunch of $ as well?). and at least 16gb of ram would prefer 32 (I'm fairly sure my 16gb on my laptop has choked out at various times as well, maybe i'ts just not great ram?) - processor wise I'm completely open to suggestions as well.
Basically anyone have some amazing deals going on currently they can point me toward?
Keystone
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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-ome...-1tb-ssd-shadow-black/6477879.p?skuId=6477879 current frontrunner for reference - cheap enough i can bang off a couple new monitors too lol
Mist
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5600G is some kind of hybrid APU thing, you don't want that unless it's some kind of no GPU build.
Ritley
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Sludig
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Ritley
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GameStop had a 1 TB Samsung 980 pro with heat sink for $114 which I thought was pretty insane.
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Xexx
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Depends - in gaming depending on which DDR5 you go with can get anywhere from 1-14% - depends on the titles also - Going 12900k and DDR5 6400 makes it much easier for games to get near or hold 4k120 for me - also depends on title again.
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If you are at that level of CPU/GPU get DDR5 (you don't say, but you are probably at 6900xt/3080/3090/ti tier if you are talking about 4k120). Most of us would benefit from using DDR4 savings towards a higher GPU tier to get better frames.
Xexx
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Yeah if i didnt have spare DDR5 id have kept gf PC @ D4 until Raptor Lake or next AMD