Diablo 3 - Reaper of Souls

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Lenwen_sl said:
While being very far from being fully geared, I feel that I have made significant improvements since returning to the game.http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/b...93/hero/243416

Looking at your profile, it seems you are missing alot of attack speed. A general rule I tend to follow is do not let your attack speed drop below 2.0; of course the more the better. I also notice your accessories only have a single dps stat. Ideally, should look into getting accessories with at least 2 dps stats to start off with ie cc/ias or cc/cd. Worry about getting trifecta dps stats after you become rich. Also on the topic of accessories, do not neglect average damage stat on them. They offer a decent dps increase.

Since you are running the sweeping winds build, crit chance should be valued higher than crit damage when it comes to choosing gear; ideally around 35%ish cc would be a good point.

For your current gear, you have too much movement speed. MS on gear caps at 24%. The only way to go above that is with passives. What you can do is keep your lacuni and inna pants, and replace your boots with ice climbers with good rolls on the stats. Your weapons are pretty weak as well. Try to get an Echoing Fury with a socket and crit dmg or life steal, or ideally, all three, and a Won Khim Lau also with a socket and cd/ls.

One final note, if you don't mind breaking the inna 4 piece bonus, look for a mempo of twilight helm with ias and crit chance, and a witching hour belt. Though those are very pricey, they are essentially best in slot.
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Hmm, is Won Khim Lau better than Az'Turrasq because of the lightning damage?
 
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Mahes_sl said:
I never knew there was a cap on movement speed for gear. I am glad you posted that before I started working on the armor portion of my Wind Barbarian. Just to make sure, there is no IAS cap on gear is there?
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There isn't but unless you're getting your IAS off extremely well rolled and super expensive gear (ie: trifecta + primary gloves, trifecta + dmg + primary rings) it is generally smarter and cheaper and better to stack CC/CD than seek out IAS

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Actually it is a bit different for WW builds. Ishad is the resident WW expert for where you need IAS to reach certain breakpoints.
 
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running through act 3... legendary gloves drop... stone whatever.

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I've gotten 3 shitty Natalya's Embrace since I started playing regularly again about 3 weeks ago. Every time I see a green cloak I just cringe.
 
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Mahes_sl said:
I never knew there was a cap on movement speed for gear. I am glad you posted that before I started working on the armor portion of my Wind Barbarian. Just to make sure, there is no IAS cap on gear is there?
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I'm concerned that if you don't know that, whatever money you spent on ww weapons is going to end up wasted. There is a lot of under the hood calcs that go into optimizing your ww barb. I know I was doing it wrong for a pretty long time. I recommend the following thread as a good source of info on ww barb mechanics.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7593621248

If you have any other questions I'll do my best to help.
 
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Ishad_sl said:
I'm concerned that if you don't know that, whatever money you spent on ww weapons is going to end up wasted. There is a lot of under the hood calcs that go into optimizing your ww barb. I know I was doing it wrong for a pretty long time. I recommend the following thread as a good source of info on ww barb mechanics.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7593621248

If you have any other questions I'll do my best to help.
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Well, to be fair, the game actually never points it out. Unless it's on one of those loading screen tips that my SSD never lets me read. So, really, the only way for someone to find out, JUST playing the game, is to buy an item and watch with horror as their movement speed hits that 25% cap on the character screen.

As to IAS(not to you specifically, just responding in general), I would say it's best to hit the ~7 attacks breakpoint with wotb up. This will make a big difference in your rage income. And more specifically, it will make the difference between being able to hammer battle shout(NEVER HAMMER SPRINT) and actually watching when it's ok to spam battle shout.
 
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Deathwing_sl said:
Well, to be fair, the game actually never points it out. Unless it's on one of those loading screen tips that my SSD never lets me read. So, really, the only way for someone to find out, JUST playing the game, is to buy an item and watch with horror as their movement speed hits that 25% cap on the character screen.

As to IAS(not to you specifically, just responding in general), I would say it's best to hit the ~7 attacks breakpoint with wotb up. This will make a big difference in your rage income. And more specifically, it will make the difference between being able to hammer battle shout(NEVER HAMMER SPRINT) and actually watching when it's ok to spam battle shout.
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Oh I agree that the 24% runspeed isn't spelled out anywhere, my point was that ww barbs are essentially all hidden mechanics and if you aren't familiar you can waste lots of gold.

For example, why the ef is so good as an offhand is because the +aps is counted for both hands. So with a +.24 ef you can hit the 7.5 ticks per second breakpoint with 2 slots of +9ias. (using a mace in the other hand). If I were to swap out my ef for any other weapon that had a 1.45 my mainhand ticks per second would drop from 8.57 to 6.67. And there is no way of knowing this without using d3rawr, so its easy to make a lot of expensive mistakes.
 
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an accordion_sl said:
Hmm, is Won Khim Lau better than Az'Turrasq because of the lightning damage?
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Long term, theAz'Turrasq won't get you too far. It has very limited rolls for the desired dps stats. With that weapon, its either cd, ls or socket, never any combo of those. The Won Khim Lau can roll 2 of the desired dps stats at the same time, and the extra lightning dmg affects your cyclones and your thunderclap rune. In addition to that, the add 6% extra lightning stat will directly affect the min/max dmg value on an echoing fury, or any other "black damage" weapon.
 
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Ishad_sl said:
For example, why the ef is so good as an offhand is because the +aps is counted for both hands. So with a +.24 ef you can hit the 7.5 ticks per second breakpoint with 2 slots of +9ias. (using a mace in the other hand). If I were to swap out my ef for any other weapon that had a 1.45 my mainhand ticks per second would drop from 8.57 to 6.67. And there is no way of knowing this without using d3rawr, so its easy to make a lot of expensive mistakes.
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What is this saying? EF is a good offhand because it increases your mainhand attack speed? So why would you want a mace mainhand as well?
 
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an accordion_sl said:
What is this saying? EF is a good offhand because it increases your mainhand attack speed? So why would you want a mace mainhand as well?
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Two fold, 1 maces get 10% crit with weapon master and 2 more hidden mechanics. The majority of your damage in the ww build comes from your tornadoes. The base damage of tornadoes is based on only your mainhand damage range. Maces have the highest damage range (spears have similar but have a shitty weapon master bonus). So a high dps mace will outperform axes and other weapons with similar dps.
 
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Two weapons of the same base speed make it easy to hit breakpoints too. Honestly, the only other combo that works almost as good is a 1.4/1.2 combo. You get too much breakpoint divergence otherwise.
 
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Ishad_sl said:
I'm concerned that if you don't know that, whatever money you spent on ww weapons is going to end up wasted. There is a lot of under the hood calcs that go into optimizing your ww barb. I know I was doing it wrong for a pretty long time. I recommend the following thread as a good source of info on ww barb mechanics.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7593621248

If you have any other questions I'll do my best to help.
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It's not a question, more of a plea for help. I'm a noob, and until a couple of days ago I was using a no fury spend cleave build I created myself with WotB for help on elites. I want to switch to WW to farm faster. Here's my character, and my gearing strategy so far has been buy stuff that's cheap and accept free gifts. It's left me with this:http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/S.../hero/14673740

I know I'm low on vitality, and I assume I need more CC, but not sure where to get it. I have an auction I may have sniped during patch time for 1 million with an additional 100 vitality to what I'm wearing now.
 
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You really need to get an axe or mace MH. That alone is basically a free 10% crit. Depending on what you want to farm I assume you farm MP0 fairly well. If you want to move up to the higher MPs you'd need to increase your DPS and get some life leech. I don't think 3% from Bloodthirst would cut it.
 
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I got a 1200+ DPS EF with +167 Str + 3% LS with a +.25 to attack. I then got an axe that was 850ish DPS with a socket + 3% LS and + 9% IAS with + 100 Str and + 134 Vit. I think I did ok with the weapons for a start.
 
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Stosh_sl said:
It's not a question, more of a plea for help. I'm a noob, and until a couple of days ago I was using a no fury spend cleave build I created myself with WotB for help on elites. I want to switch to WW to farm faster. Here's my character, and my gearing strategy so far has been buy stuff that's cheap and accept free gifts. It's left me with this:http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/S.../hero/14673740

I know I'm low on vitality, and I assume I need more CC, but not sure where to get it. I have an auction I may have sniped during patch time for 1 million with an additional 100 vitality to what I'm wearing now.
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While your vit is too low for higher mp levels you have sufficent ehp where you should be able to run mp0-3 comfortably. Your real problem is your sustain is too low, and your weapons are split between the 6.75 and 7.5 tick point.


Easy improvements, swap out your passives adding bloodthirst and weapons master. You should have enough crit and fury gen to sustain wotb. Save your gold, as your set will eventually have to be rebuilt from the ground up.

I'll dig in my stash and see if I have any old gear that will help.
 
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Are the servers still supposed to be back up at 4 est or did it get delayed... I'm guessing delayed....

Still at work and blizzard site is blocked. Somehow, rerolled isn't!
 
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