Diablo 3 - Reaper of Souls

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moonarchia

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So my 70 WD just went from gimp to pimp. Got my second piece of helltooth and a perfect roll convocation of elements. Now I am able to steamroll t4 like a pro. Going to focus on jeram's bracer next, then 4 piece, then scrimshaw. Just a matter of time now.
 

Noodleface

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If I popped on this sometime this weekend are there any bros interested in power levelling me? Kind of just want to check out the changes and I've already levelled every class up before
 

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I'd help, but I can't even survive on Master as I just hit 70 and have absolutely shitty gear.
 

Pyros

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You must group with some pretty slow barbs.
What's the speed of barbs anyway? I've seen some run pretty fast but I'm not sure it's faster than majuma WD, the speed is fairly dumb, considering it's ressource-less. You get 150% with hex, 25% obviously from paragon/boots, then 15% from having a pet(or 30% ooc, though that's hard to get when running around stuff), 25% from Soul Harvest which you need to refresh every now and then. After that, normal stuff applies like Krelm belt, the item destruction bracers(chicken seems to break more or less everything you come close to) and so on.

I know Sprint+WW with Bulkathos is pretty fast but not sure of the values. There's the warcry belt but I think it doesn't have 100% uptime, and since you're WWing you can also use wreath of lightning for speed which you can't really do as chicken(maybe with wormwood if it procs it, not sure).

For actual killing though, I'm not a big fan of majuma explosion and arachyr, doesn't feel like it does enough damage and the fucking toad is annoying as shit. I tend to just run the weapons then just firewall stuff. Can run T10 pretty fast with pure helltooth if you slot In Geom too. That said I couldn't seem to get the 3mins T10 clear on my own, not sure chicken would help. I'm gonna need to find a group to do some of the season journey achievement shit for the last tier, not looking forward to it as high GR group stuff looks boring as shit.

Edit: Fuck just wasted 2 GR keys because I switched to majuma to check the stats and forgot to change skill then forgot to change weapon.
 

Deathwing

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25% base
40% Sprint
40% Chilanik's Chain(100% uptime easily with OroTZ)
30% BK2
20% WoTB
25% Wreath

180% total

Furious Charge counts for something, but not sure how to quantify it. Take a look at the WW barb in my sig, it's the fastest mindless farming spec for barbs.

I'll admit, I'm not a WD expert by any means, I generally dislike the INT classes. Didn't know hex was 150% move speed. But, the spec sounds like you have to stop moving to kill, even if momentary. WW barb kills while moving, no stopping.
 

khorum

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I didn't think slow barbs were even possible anymore. I noticed there are more non-WW barbs tho.

The hexchicken build optimally uses 2 sets, you only really stop to detonate yourself and then go back to chicken. Its fun as hell and probably the best for bounty runs.
 

Deathwing

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Depends on what you're doing, honestly. If you're grouping for grifts, hammer barbs are best. If you're grouping for rifts, WW or hammer work. For bounties, though, WW is best because there just aren't enough packed elites to keep In Geom up most of the time(for quick repeated charges).

Good video of speed clearing T9 rifts(yes, he's a douchebag streamer):

2.3 SpeedFarming Barb Guide / Diablo 3 Reaper of Souls - YouTube

Is there a good video of speed farming with a WD?
 

Pyros

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Depends on what you're doing, honestly. If you're grouping for grifts, hammer barbs are best. If you're grouping for rifts, WW or hammer work. For bounties, though, WW is best because there just aren't enough packed elites to keep In Geom up most of the time(for quick repeated charges).

Good video of speed clearing T9 rifts(yes, he's a douchebag streamer):

2.3 SpeedFarming Barb Guide / Diablo 3 Reaper of Souls - YouTube

Is there a good video of speed farming with a WD?
There's the 0cd In Jeom helltooth build with videos, but the rifts are very skewed towards Ingeom usage, like he shows 3 rifts with insane clear speed but all 3 are large open ended areas with lots of bosses and he has PTR buff on, the same rifts on live would probably take quite a bit longer. In practive, 3/4 of the rifts aren't like that and you clear way slower without Ingeom permanently up.

It's still fast because you use Spirit Walk and Horrify then they reset instantly when you explode a pack so you go on like that, but it's slower than the barb stuff since you do have to stop to drop a couple of firewalls on stuff for them to die. As for chicken farming, you also have to stop so I don't know how fast it is. If I could find an ancient majuma dagger I'd check, I have almost full ancient Arachyr from gambling for ancient helltooth/random drops and I have an offhand ancient majuma, so would probably be able to do 9 easy.

I think for bounties though, it's basically the fastest there is atm, because there's no conditional like breaking stuff or killing stuff and the overall speed is pretty stupid.
 

Needless

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Full helltooth and jeram now, I instantly melt shit. WD is so damn fun this season.
What weapon are you using? I'm trying to figure out what i want to do with my alt WD thats a completely different playstyle than my DH.

so farhis gearis complete shit on him but i like the whole helltooth playstyle now. I haven't played him at all, just spend blood shards and craft cube shit with him lol.

I'd like to find a mimic/grim reaper build with it, that was one of the funnest playstyles i enjoyed back in S2
 

Tenks

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I'm not sure if this is a known or popular build but I've just gotten the items for it and it is pretty wreck.

Sets:

2pc Bul Kathos
6pc IK
2pc Wastes

Req uniques:

Bracers of Destruction (+400% Seismic Slam damage)

Good to have/ don't have:

Weapon that reduces Seismic Slam rage by 50%
Bracers of Knockback damage

So the basic idea is this. You get 2 pc Bul Kathos exclusively for the 10 fury gain. This and Unforgiving basically means you are just sucking in unlimited fury. You are building around Seismic simply because I had those items around. It could probably work for Hammer as well. But you are spending so much Fury your uptime on WotB is at 100% (without Boon of Bul Kathos.) You run up, rend some shit, seismic some shit and run on. You don't need a fury gainer because you have such stupidly high passive fury gain via Bul Kathos and Unforgiving in addition to Weapon Master w/ Mighty Weapons.

I just started playing around with it. But it is fast and it is fun.

-edit-

I guess also musing this over. Later on you could use Furnace as your weapon socket and move to the Fury Ancients shoulders to help you with your now more expensive seismic slams. Presently I am running with a Leo Crown and a fat Amathyst and have around 900k HP. The build doesn't require an CDR so your helmet socket is pretty open. The only downside to that strategy is you would lose the ability to also slot your armor with the two valuable bracer properties.
 

Pyros

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What weapon are you using? I'm trying to figure out what i want to do with my alt WD thats a completely different playstyle than my DH.

so farhis gearis complete shit on him but i like the whole helltooth playstyle now. I haven't played him at all, just spend blood shards and craft cube shit with him lol.

I'd like to find a mimic/grim reaper build with it, that was one of the funnest playstyles i enjoyed back in S2
Helltooth uses Grin Reaper, it's core. It's cubed though cause you need the Helltooth helm for 6pc without RoRG so you can use F+R. The mimics spam almost everything you have, firewalls, piranhados and acid cloud/zombie bears plus whatever your primary is, great stuff. You also have 15 fetishes from the Belt of Transcendence, so there's some pet aspect, it's everything WD in one build ^^.

Weapon wise, the easiest to obtain is Scrimshaw, because there's only 2 legendary spears available to WD, so upgrading rares obviously is super easy. Getting an ancient might take a bunch of tries, but it's better than pretty much any other class. Other good weapon is Suwong Diviner, but there's a lot of garbage staves for upgrading making it hard to get. They use different dump spells so depending on your tastes, you might want one or the other. Other than these, really any weapon will do, the strongest the better. Maximus might actually be kinda good since iirc it rolls fire% which is good for firewall.

Also I know you said it's an alt and shit, but at least pick a 4th passive ^^. And use anything but Cindercoat? It doesn't cube the fire dmg, only the ressource cost reduction, and firewall doesn't cost any mana.
 

vGrade

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You must group with some pretty slow barbs.
215% run speed > barb
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Needless

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Helltooth uses Grin Reaper, it's core. It's cubed though cause you need the Helltooth helm for 6pc without RoRG so you can use F+R. The mimics spam almost everything you have, firewalls, piranhados and acid cloud/zombie bears plus whatever your primary is, great stuff. You also have 15 fetishes from the Belt of Transcendence, so there's some pet aspect, it's everything WD in one build ^^.

Weapon wise, the easiest to obtain is Scrimshaw, because there's only 2 legendary spears available to WD, so upgrading rares obviously is super easy. Getting an ancient might take a bunch of tries, but it's better than pretty much any other class. Other good weapon is Suwong Diviner, but there's a lot of garbage staves for upgrading making it hard to get. They use different dump spells so depending on your tastes, you might want one or the other. Other than these, really any weapon will do, the strongest the better. Maximus might actually be kinda good since iirc it rolls fire% which is good for firewall.

Also I know you said it's an alt and shit, but at least pick a 4th passive ^^. And use anything but Cindercoat? It doesn't cube the fire dmg, only the ressource cost reduction, and firewall doesn't cost any mana.
Oh good to hear then!

Yeah i loved how the mimics would just do everything, and i'm pretty sure they were actually buffed since then too which is pretty sick! I'll make a Scrimshaw and try out the zombie bear build. I saw somebody using an in-geom as well which looked really efficient as well, having fire wall constantly being used with the CD being pretty much 0 at all times lol
 

Deathwing

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Tenks:

If you're going to use rend, a 2H is pretty much required since rend ignore any IAS benefits. I've seen some weird builds using rend with 2pc wastes and 6pc ik, but even in your best case scenario(4 stacks via Lamentation and Bloodbath) you're still only dealing 5280% WD per second. That's barely more two 6pc dust devils, which a decent build can pump out over 6 per second. Oh, also, rend doesn't proc bloodshed.

Still doesn't seem up to snuff as a damage unless you're on really high HP and density maps.