Diablo 3 - Reaper of Souls

Korrupt

Korrupt

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Torment 6 isnt anything crazy for trash or even elites, people use tanks and stun or freeze packs to do it with low DPS. Its not efficient and it sucks if you are high DPS and your public group is full of people who do 1/2 of what you do.

Beating Act I on torment 5 by someone would impress me. Hi2U Butcher !!
 
Vorph

Vorph

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Kreugen_sl said:
Anyway, after leveling up the rest of the classes I do enjoy their new emphasis on making resource pool matter for exactly one class.
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Resource pool matters for DH and Monk, probably WD as well though I've barely played one myself. Even a DH using Kridershot still needs hatred for Cluster Arrow to really spike something down quickly. Without Kridershot, you're stuck using our universally-shitty generators and even more reliant on Cluster Arrow.

As for HC vs. SC, I cannot imagine ever playing HC on Blizzard's servers (and the routers between me and them). There would have been like 5 out of the last 10 days that I wouldn't have even considered logging on a character that I cared about. Not like that's something new either, it's an ongoing problem that will probably be exponentially worse this time next week.
 
Leon

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Vorph_sl said:
Resource pool matters for DH and Monk, probably WD as well though I've barely played one myself. Even a DH using Kridershot still needs hatred for Cluster Arrow to really spike something down quickly. Without Kridershot, you're stuck using our universally-shitty generators and even more reliant on Cluster Arrow.

As for HC vs. SC, I cannot imagine ever playing HC on Blizzard's servers (and the routers between me and them). There would have been like 5 out of the last 10 days that I wouldn't have even considered logging on a character that I cared about. Not like that's something new either, it's an ongoing problem that will probably be exponentially worse this time next week.
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Seems like the main problem node was fixed sometimes monday tho. I haven't been able to play for close to a week and a half, and had zero lag all of yesterday and this morning. Fingers crossed.
 
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Draegan_sl

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Got my WD up to 30last night. Fuck, haunt that doubles up the target plus Lotus swarm with pestilence is just gg with all my pets.

Only playing on hard though.
 
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Crazily

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Kreugen_sl said:
So what abilities does a wiz run to actually clear high torments - pris armor, bubble, archon, diamond skin/mirror image/teleport? With either frozen orb or pewpewbeam?
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Wizard - Game Guide - Diablo III

Thats what I run, I don't do T6 because it's just inefficient. I can do T5 fairly easy and T4 is a joke. I have around 350k dps and 1.2 mill toughness. You can really change the runes around based on arcane power needs/defense vs offense.

For example, if you have no trouble with arcane power regen, drop storm armor for energy/prismatic. Or if you are having trouble, change familiar to arcanot....many options to change and tweak this build. I happen to have a helm with +20 arcane damage and some bracers with +17 so it works really well for me. This is the spec I will be starting RoS with as well.
 
Kreugen

Kreugen

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Vorph_sl said:
Resource pool matters for DH and Monk, probably WD as well though I've barely played one myself. Even a DH using Kridershot still needs hatred for Cluster Arrow to really spike something down quickly. Without Kridershot, you're stuck using our universally-shitty generators and even more reliant on Cluster Arrow.
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Well that's true, monk only builds back energy two to three times faster than barb, which is enough to make it annoying until you go back and play barb and realize how good you had it.

I haven't touched my 60 DH since before inferno had difficulty levels. I used him to farm whimsyshire when my barb couldn't survive past Act 1. I tried to play him yesterday and it was OH GOD HOW DO I DH.

Funny though, it seems I guessed correctly that cluster arrow was the most effective attack.
 
Elerion

Elerion

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I can confirm that WD, Monk and DH all feel very limited by resource pool if they want to do max DPS. I generally end up using low-cost or non-spammy spenders on all of them (Vampiric Bats, Cyclone Strike/Sweeping Winds and Frost Arrow respectively) to minimize the problem, but if I wanted to maximize DPS (Bats/Bears, Bell, Cluster Arrow) I would constantly be running out.

I don't know jack about barbs, but I know the people I play with seem to spam Seismic Slam all day long.
 
Kreugen

Kreugen

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The only way they are "spamming" seismic slam is if a) there happens to be fire/poison/whatever to stand in to feed them fury (Ghom is fun) or b) they already have managed to get 4 pieces of the new IK set, which means they must play 23 hours a day. Are they constantly surrounded by barb clones?

Monk builders give more than double the energy of barbs.
 
j00t

j00t

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I don't seem to understand the benefits of using bell over kick... it's over half the cost LESS and with the spinning fire tornado rune it does almost as much damage as bell. and it's quicker? I can get 2-3 kicks off during the same time i'd only be able to get 1 bell off. i'm clearly missing something.
 
Kreugen

Kreugen

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Range. But the cost is still fucking retarded.

Perhaps they will "fix" it by doubling the cost of kick. And then barbs and monks can cry together.
 
Hatorade

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Kreugen_sl said:
The only way they are "spamming" seismic slam is if a) there happens to be fire/poison/whatever to stand in to feed them fury (Ghom is fun) or b) they already have managed to get 4 pieces of the new IK set, which means they must play 23 hours a day. Are they constantly surrounded by barb clones?

Monk builders give more than double the energy of barbs.
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I have my 4 piece barb set just running T1-2 story mode over and over, got every piece from a corpse/chest/barrel, it does indeed allow me to spam slam.
 
Kreugen

Kreugen

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I just avoid the whole issue by playing T1 withBarbarian - Game Guide - Diablo III

It takes me just short of fucking forever to kill a boss like this but packs aren't bad. Only problem, breaking barrels one at a time fucking sucks. But the cleave is crap compared to sidearm, and my damage is already low enough as it is.

I don't know how the fuck barbs were green lit in this state. "Oh, just slot every single passive and most of your abilities into fury builders, then farm for hundreds of hours until you get 4 pieces of set gear, and THEN you'll be able to use something other than a 5 second dot with a tiny range. Brilliant!'
 
Mures

Mures

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Kreugen_sl said:
Only problem, breaking barrels one at a time fucking sucks.
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Boy does it, I tried using entangling shot: justice is served on my dh for more ca, but I couldn't stand breaking barrels one at a time. It works well for bosses though.
 
Grayson Carlyle

Grayson Carlyle

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I got
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as my first legendary after 2.0.1. That works out really well for me because I'm leveling a new barb from 0 with my girlfriend's crusader.
 
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Tortfeasor

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j00t_sl said:
I don't seem to understand the benefits of using bell over kick... it's over half the cost LESS and with the spinning fire tornado rune it does almost as much damage as bell. and it's quicker? I can get 2-3 kicks off during the same time i'd only be able to get 1 bell off. i'm clearly missing something.
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You aren't missing anything. I use the rune that turns LTK into lightning damage (because Lightning skills bonus dmg) and has an 85% chance to stun. It's nice being able to stun lock elite packs while critting for 1,000,000+
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Kreugen

Kreugen

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Kick/builder/kick/builder repeat until dead. This way you don't have a gap in your stunlock when you run low on spirit.

I found always feeling pressured to keep 3 stacks of sweeping wind up to be annoying as hell, though. And the extended version is something retarded like cold damage.
 
Hatorade

Hatorade

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Kreugen_sl said:
I just avoid the whole issue by playing T1 withBarbarian - Game Guide - Diablo III

Only problem, breaking barrels one at a time fucking sucks. But the cleave is crap compared to sidearm, and my damage is already low enough as it is.

I don't know how the fuck barbs were green lit in this state. "Oh, just slot every single passive and most of your abilities into fury builders, then farm for hundreds of hours until you get 4 pieces of set gear, and THEN you'll be able to use abilities a lot like other classes. Brilliant!'
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Yeah it sucks I did this for a whileBarbarian - Game Guide - Diablo III, fun seeing 9million dmg crits.
 
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