Diablo 3 - Reaper of Souls

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Noodleface_sl said:
WD is fun, and slam dance is hilarious with a bunch of wizards in your group. Piranhas I'm still not sure about - it's an internal struggle.
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I am liking it I usually giving it the piranado upgrade and then its a nice 15% damage amp and a good stun/clump effect that makes for some great vampire bat targeting. Plus its hilarious with diablo emoting at you with fish biting his head.
 
Pyros

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Ronne_sl said:
And wizards, try and find a Light of Grace to prep for frozen orb nerfs. Piercing ray of frost is just about as broken and it comes with a HUGE (for wiz anyway) coefficient.
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Well it's not like frozen orb is the only build anyway, from what I could see quickly, you could probably run a typical fire cindercoat/magefist build with fire meteor and do just fine too. Even if they nerf frozen orb I don't think it'll matter too much. I think part of the wizard "problem" is their ressource regenerates very quickly AND you can get a stat that makes it regen faster based on your damage(as opposed as a constant rate which tends to be a fuckton weaker for other classes). If Apoc was changed to arcane power per second and gave 1-2, wizards would probably be where everyone else is. Which isn't to say that'd be a good solution, I'd rather they buff generation for other classes. I think monks feel fine and DH can use prepa punishment(but the fact you need a skill to deal with it sucks), crusader/barb feels like shit though and WD is pretty annoying if you don't use one of the 2 non builders that actually don't cost mana(vampiric bats and the spirit spam shit that regens mana with the passive that regens mana when using it).
 
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Ronne_sl said:
And wizards, try and find a Light of Grace to prep for frozen orb nerfs. Piercing ray of frost is just about as broken and it comes with a HUGE (for wiz anyway) coefficient.
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I got one on 60.

It came with +% disintegrate damage.

Looking at how they fixed people farming normals, I wonder if their policy of nerfing shit isn't a thing of the past, because people just want to have fun and that, contrary to popular opinion of unwashed masses, isn't a finite resource.
 
Needless

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I don't even really think frozen orb is that bad.. some dude on twitch was streaming his archon/disintegrate build last night. He was critting forbillionsand only had 16 seconds in between each archon use.
 
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Now that I have my build mostly worked out for my Barb I, honestly, don't really have many fury issues. I've said it time and time again but Reaper's Wraps are amazing for Barbarian. Cindercoat takes 5 Fury off the cost of HOTA. Superstition makes it so for elites packs you can almost always find some elemental to stand in and get unlimited fury. I feel people are playing Barbarian wrong. Traditional offensive fury gainers for barbs are *terrible*. War Cry, Superstition and Reaper's Wrap make up the bulk of my fury generation. Superstition being the one good for elites, Wraps being the one good for trash mobs and War Cry as good "I need some fury." I'm still undecided if having Threat Shout w/ Grim Harvest is better than Battle Cry w/ Ploughshares (or whatever) rune for HP orb generation. I lean towards the latter but TShout is also great for staying alive.

I feel like I should make a video but I don't have fraps or anything on my computer.
 
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Needless_sl said:
I don't even really think frozen orb is that bad.. some dude on twitch was streaming his archon/disintegrate build last night. He was critting forbillionsand only had 16 seconds in between each archon use.
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I can't confirm this, but I was told they hotfixed it already so it cannot crit.
 
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Needless_sl said:
I don't even really think frozen orb is that bad.. some dude on twitch was streaming his archon/disintegrate build last night. He was critting forbillionsand only had 16 seconds in between each archon use.
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Yeah I imagine you can stack skill cooldown reduction items and use Archon to great effectiveness.
 
Mageling

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Deathwing_sl said:
Lightning skill damage does NOT affect TF procs, I've tested this myself. Watched the proc numbers for a while, then slapped on 25% +lightning% gear(no dex) and watched for the max to increase. It never did. So you can probably extrapolate that to any other proc that does XXX% weapon damage. Only exception being Odyn Son, I think, since it mentions specifically a skill. But the amount of +lightning% you'd need just to overcome that shitty hit modifier means it will never be as good as TF or SoH.

What's your bnet page? Been trying to find a lightning build that works. I think it has the right mix of utility and damage with LTK-SS, but the overall dps seems lacking unless you take sweeping winds.
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This is what I'm running for farming T1/2 with another Monk buddy.

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Deadly Reach + Mythic Rhythm are pretty good. I've got my Lashing Tail Kick up in the 12-14m range. Popping Epiphany pretty much allows me to stand in just about anything sans Arcane orbs and just wreck packs. I'm waiting for stuns to be nerfed.
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Korrupt

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Wizzies use all kinds of builds, Frozen orb is just popular because of the ease. I barely see wizards standing at the range where it hits as it explodes to get the extra effect anyway.

The wizzies I run with are still using arcane builds w/o 4pc, hell cannoneer alone without % ele mods or anything does 200% weapon damage as AE.
 
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Before I got 395002ed I killed him on T3 and got a legendary mace and then again on T4 for the crafting mat. T6 as a group crashed us and I still can't log on. So yeah it makes a big difference in whether you can get stuff or not!
 
Korrupt

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I dont think they are going to nerf it because of the loot but maybe because of the amount of people botting it. Its been being done for over 3 weeks or so and isnt nothing new. Its just an easy way to make a new game, walk 10 yards, kill a named and repeat (botters dream). I have like 5 friends on my list who are always there most likely botting and a friend who is in the top 10 NA for dps barbs also bots it for set items.
 
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I'm on before most on the weekends and I chuckle whenever I see someone in the clan id ~10 legendary/set pieces at once in the morning. Gee...did someone just wake up from a night of botting?
 
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Now that the game has literally no trading I don't see the upside of botting. You'll gear your toon out faster to ... do what exactly?
 
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Epeen on diabloprogress which is worthless because none of the top DPS runs with optimal % mods or even set pieces. Its all about who can get the highest sheet DPS.

My friends I run with are on the top 10 for Barb / DH and talk about logging out with special gear to boost their rank and then they play with other sets of gear for actual clearing.
 
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Krassus_sl said:
Epeen on diabloprogress which is worthless because none of the top DPS runs with optimal % mods or even set pieces. Its all about who can get the highest sheet DPS.

My friends I run with are on the top 10 for Barb / DH and talk about logging out with special gear to boost their rank and then they play with other sets of gear for actual clearing.
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I know it is pretty common for Barbs to log out with full fury (Berserker's Rage buff) and surrounded by mobs (Brawler buff) if they're obsessed with ranked DPS. I guess now you want to log out with 25 stacks of Rampage as well.
 
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