Diablo 3 - Reaper of Souls

Amzin

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Eyashusa_sl said:
Opinions are changing quickly but the general consensus a few days ago was main stat was not worth it and resist all was king. That might change over time which is why I am not bothering socketing any Royal gems right now...

plus I am still using a legacy Tal Rasha's because I can't find a fucking chest upgrade.
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The top 2 tiers of gems have HUGE stats compared to Marquis/flawless Marquis or whatever. Whereas Diamond RA bonus scales fairly flatly. So for top end, stats are better than RA, but RA is still not bad. Lower tier, RA is really hard to beat.
 
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Pyros_sl said:
No legendary drop rate does increase the higher you go. Unless you're smashing the higher torment levels though, there is no real point. Doesn't matter if you're just farming chests however, in which case T6 is by far better than T1. Yesterday on my DH I was getting a legendary every 10mins or so running chests on T6. Seems to sometimes stop dropping but switching between places seem to "fix" it, could just be confirmation bias/RNG however.
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you doing core runs?

looking for some easy stuff to do, so I can grab a few pieces of gear fresh at 70 on my crusader.
 
Pyros

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Well it really depends on how much toughness(or well survivability in general, not necessarily the toughness number) you need to survive for whatever you're doing. 280 main stat is cool sure but it's not that impactful(it's what 2-3% DPS at most in endgame gear?) and there's a limited amount of primaries. For example if you want cooldown reduction or ressource cost reduction, that generally comes at the cost of all resist or vitality, and if you remove those from most of your gear, then the final result is you're squishy as fuck, so slotting like 400 all resists in your chest/legs is probably gonna be more useful than going even more damage(but that does depend too, if you have enough cdr you could become super tanky from cooldown usage instead and not require any replacement for those lost defensive stat, see quasi perma archon build). If you don't care about these there's enough slots to get your defensive stats elsewhere I think. But yeah main stat gems scale a lot better than all resist gems once you upgrade them, it's up to 280 stat while it's only up to 88 or something all resist, think it's +4 all resist per tier of gem while it's +40stat per tier for the other gems.

TecKnoe_sl said:
you doing core runs?
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Read a few posts down I explain what I'm doing, core sometimes yeah, mostly crypts. For crusader core is probably better, it's smaller and you get more chance at stuff, crypt is mostly about completing the quest but you need to find the right one which is only fast if you're a DH.
 
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I got lucky on my first go in crypt - got 2 leg, then 1 leg then another leg a few runs later - then i had a long dry spell. I had 0 luck at all core.
 
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TecKnoe_sl said:
you doing core runs?

looking for some easy stuff to do, so I can grab a few pieces of gear fresh at 70 on my crusader.
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So just play the game? You'll get tons of useful loot if your gear sucks, even on normal. Kind of tired of almost every post you make in this thread is asking about "exploits" or weird farming runs. While you miss the obvious fucking answer: the game will literally give you upgrades if your gear sucks.

Just fucking bot already and be done with it. You and harfle. Never seen two people put so much effort into not playing the game.
 
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Amzin_sl said:
So for top end, stats are better than RA, but RA is still not bad. Lower tier, RA is really hard to beat.
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If by lower tier, you mean soloing T1, then yeah. I swapped out my Int gems for RA, and the only time I get fisted soloing T1 is when I get walled and lasered (squishy Wizard).
 
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TecKnoe

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Deathwing_sl said:
So just play the game? You'll get tons of useful loot if your gear sucks, even on normal. Kind of tired of almost every post you make in this thread is asking about "exploits" or weird farming runs. While you miss the obvious fucking answer: the game will literally give you upgrades if your gear sucks.

Just fucking bot already and be done with it. You and harfle. Never seen two people put so much effort into not playing the game.
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botting aside, I didn't realize I was the only one looking for the most efficient farming route, in this game.
 
Amzin

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Silence_sl said:
If by lower tier, you mean soloing T1, then yeah. I swapped out my Int gems for RA, and the only time I get fisted soloing T1 is when I get walled and lasered (squishy Wizard).
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I actually was talking about tiers of gems. The top 2 tiers of gems take a huge jump in primary stat bonus but don't take any noticeable jump in RA bonus, so top tier gems it's better to use Primary stat ones instead of RA ones, whereas lower tiers it's better to use RA over primary stat ones. In general.
 
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TecKnoe_sl said:
botting aside, I didn't realize I was the only one looking for the most efficient farming route, in this game.
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I thought rifts were the shit ? I doubt most people find fun in repeating the exact 5 steps before remaking. Rifts offer enough variety, experience and drops to stand head and shoulders above the rest of the game for me.
 
Needless

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I think i'm going to try and rework my crusader build and keep playing him until i get a "good" weapon to see how more viable the class gets.
So far i am disappointed by them, they are fun.. but too slow.. and annoyingly reliant on shitty CDs.

If they still suck at that point i'll drop him until they change the class :p


It really seems that skills like provoke, and building for lightning is required at this point though since wrath generation is absolutely awful without it, and holy dps seems to blow lol
 
Mures

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Is it that good? I got one yesterday on my dh and people freaked out and I have no idea what it does really. Damn you blizzard trying to make me roll new characters. Sucks to hear about holy damage though, I got a holy damage soj w/ increased wrath regen, lvl 60, but the elemental and vs elite damage increase is nuts.
 
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It's definitely one of the better weapons in terms of taking out groups of packs.. Codemn by default is a skill that does something around (edit 1250%) weapon damage with a 15 second cd.. that weapon allows you do proc it for each amount of mobs it hits.

So an elite pack with 5 mobs, just took 5x 1000% weapon damage. lol
2 elite packs making 10 mobs? welp 10x 1000% damage etc.

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Pyros

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mures_sl said:
Is it that good? I got one yesterday on my dh and people freaked out and I have no idea what it does really. Damn you blizzard trying to make me roll new characters. Sucks to hear about holy damage though, I got a holy damage soj w/ increased wrath regen, lvl 60, but the elemental and vs elite damage increase is nuts.
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Condemn is a 1200% aoe with a charge up time but "only" a 15secs cooldown, which for crusader is pretty short. Since it's also a 2H weapon, that 1200% works over time for super large hits. Because it's an aoe, it hits multiple targets, then each targets does the same aoe around them, leading to a massive burst on everything. Think if your cluster arrow shot more 4cluster arrows instead of grenades, how would that make you feel.
 
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Hey no sniffling for you, I had one and died with it in HC. Also condemn does not have to be a 15 sec cool down. Use the rune that reduces cooldowns for enemies hit. Makes for some fast killing.
 
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Pyros_sl said:
Fire build is good on every class which has fire skills, which is pretty much every class. Well WD might not be so good not sure. Friend is playing a fire monk, he doesn't have a cindercoat yet but he has very good magefists(crit critdmg dex and 20%fire) as well as the usual bracer/neck with fire dmg and he seems to be doing fine. The fire LTK is a lot better than the lightning one too but sweeping winds is kinda meh, just bigger aoe which is alright but lightning SW has the little tornadoes shit increasing dmg a lot.
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I run a fire WD with RhenHo, magefist and fire damage soj. Frogs crit for 5m aoe. Fire locusts with the double damage helm and creeping death shred most mobs. I run 30% skill damage and 50% fire damage. Also using the fire rune for charger...crits for 20m. We clear t4 with ease. It's totally viable, but extremely gear dependent.
 
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Pyros_sl said:
Condemn is a 1200% aoe with a charge up time but "only" a 15secs cooldown, which for crusader is pretty short. Since it's also a 2H weapon, that 1200% works over time for super large hits. Because it's an aoe, it hits multiple targets, then each targets does the same aoe around them, leading to a massive burst on everything. Think if your cluster arrow shot more 4cluster arrows instead of grenades, how would that make you feel.
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Damn, yeah, that is sexy. Guess I'll have to start my crusader sooner than later.
 
Pyros

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Right was just stating base stats, it can be slotted for lower cd which I use and is great, or for pulling mobs to you which is also great but sadly can't use both and I'd rather just condemn twice in a row when I hit a big pack with elites mixed in than pull a few stragglers into the aoe. From what I read the sword supposedly has a cap, like it won't one shot torment 6 elites with shit stats if you go to act5 with all the little bugs in adria's dungeon. It's probably around 5 but could be higher. Still at intended gear level, it will one shot elite packs if they're all together or close to, which I guess is when the vacuum rune might actually be better.

That weapon or the one that gives you 3 beams when you cast Heaven's Fury increase your burst potential by a ton.

And Madruk yeah I knew about locust but didn't really see many other good fire runes, I guess zombie charger explosive dog one might be really good though. On my WD I have a hard time aligning elements, it's like some physical, some cold, some poison, it's a bit all over the place. But since I have shit gear it doesn't really matter anyway.
 
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