Diablo 3 - Reaper of Souls

Mures

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I mentioned it in the heroes of the storm thread too, not only is the guy an asshat, but its the shit he does on stream too, running cursed chest event over and over for 20 hours? I'd fucking rather watch grass grow for 20 hours. I sadly did core of areat chest runs for a little bit yesterday since I knew I didn't have too much time, got 5 legendaries in 45m, but it was so fucking boring, yet I saw yesterday there were a few streamers with over 1,000 viewers streaming that shit. Its fucking boring enough doing it yourself, I can't imagine watching someone do it for hours.
 

Nola

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It's unreal that there are 7000+ who are willing to watch that dude.
Ughhhh can't watch him. That voice and his arrogant attitude. Only D3 streamers I like watching are Moldran and Datmodz. Modz cause he's a monk player like me and Moldran cause he's pretty informative and he started playing a demon hunter which is my alt.
 

Korrupt

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Doing that stuff to me is a waste of time but it doesnt bother me. I've gotten my gear playing through the game and im progressing fine, let them bros pop dem chests and enjoy the game their own way.

Eye my tanking is mostly gear and calamity for the stun, I try to balance resists + armor for my toughness with DPS. I always run with blur + 30% armor buff with the passive for 20% boosted resist all over the dps version. My build and everything I do is about meteors and meteor + elemental dmg %, I normally swap to arcane dynamo since it uses the procs also of meteors as well. The only gear I swap in for dps is my shrine bracers + boots with more meteor damage but both weaken my toughness quite a bit.
 

dak

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I saw yesterday there were a few streamers with over 1,000 viewers streaming that shit. Its fucking boring enough doing it yourself, I can't imagine watching someone do it
There were supposedly only around 4500 level 70 adventure games available last night around 7:00PM CST. (Is that even accurate or does the game cut off the number it shows in game on the number of available games?)

I wouldn't be surprised that if at any give time there are more people watching streams of the game than actually playing it.

-Edit: Oh yeah, duh only open games. Oops, nm.
 

Mures

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If you're talking about a figure you saw in game, that number is only games which are open and have spots available.
 

an accordion_sl

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There were supposedly only around 4500 level 70 adventure games available last night around 7:00PM CST. (Is that even accurate or does the game cut off the number it shows in game on the number of available games?)

I wouldn't be surprised that if at any give time there are more people watching streams of the game than actually playing it.
That only displays public games (not sure if it's limited to only open ones as well). It's understandable, don't think I've ever seen anyone on my friends list in a public game.
 

ex-genj

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How "good" is life on hit now anyways? I gambled blackthorns pants and I could reroll its 1 socket
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or the LoH I guess.

What I really really need is a freaking graph that says: x mainstat = y +IAS = z critical hit damage etc but that seems to be hard to find. Annoying.
 

Eidal

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What is the popular argument against trading now? I would love to be able to swap gear with friends -- and I can't think of a single reason why I'd give a shit if someone else RMTed or botted their way to better gear. I'm just kinda curious why blizzard went this route. Everyone quickly realized how much the AH sucked -- it didn't belong in an item finder. That being said, I'm in direct competition with zero players. If someone else "abuses" trading by RMTing, it affects me zero. I just don't understand, I thought stashing gear and sharing with friends was an iconic aspect of D1/D2.

EDIT: Even IF its to protect the sanctity of the upcoming ladders, who gives a shit. Maybe they should do what PoE did and make the ladder its own "league" and disable trading during competition season.
 

Falstaff

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What is the popular argument against trading now? I would love to be able to swap gear with friends -- and I can't think of a single reason why I'd give a shit if someone else RMTed or botted their way to better gear. I'm just kinda curious why blizzard went this route. Everyone quickly realized how much the AH sucked -- it didn't belong in an item finder. That being said, I'm in direct competition with zero players. If someone else "abuses" trading by RMTing, it affects me zero. I just don't understand, I thought stashing gear and sharing with friends was an iconic aspect of D1/D2.

EDIT: Even IF its to protect the sanctity of the upcoming ladders, who gives a shit. Maybe they should do what PoE did and make the ladder its own "league" and disable trading during competition season.
Popular arguments against trading include, but are not limited to: Botting, D2JSP, why farm if you can just buy/trade for the best gear, etc. etc. etc.
 

Amzin

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What is the popular argument against trading now? I would love to be able to swap gear with friends -- and I can't think of a single reason why I'd give a shit if someone else RMTed or botted their way to better gear. I'm just kinda curious why blizzard went this route. Everyone quickly realized how much the AH sucked -- it didn't belong in an item finder. That being said, I'm in direct competition with zero players. If someone else "abuses" trading by RMTing, it affects me zero. I just don't understand, I thought stashing gear and sharing with friends was an iconic aspect of D1/D2.

EDIT: Even IF its to protect the sanctity of the upcoming ladders, who gives a shit. Maybe they should do what PoE did and make the ladder its own "league" and disable trading during competition season.
There is no functional difference between a 3rd party RMT and an official Blizzard RMT, except that Blizzard doesn't make much money off a 3rd party one, and more people get scammed. There's plenty of solutions that largely eliminate the potential for abuse from 3rd parties and allow friends to trade (have to be friends for X days/weeks is the simple solution), without just making it a free for all.
 

Mures

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Because it would affect you. Even if you didn't use rmt to gear out blizzard would nerf drop rates across the board, because some people will and they don't want people gearing out too quickly. Also, if you are interested in ladders it does affect you. I suppose if they truly wanted to make everyone happy, once ladders come out they could disable trading in ladders, and open trading for non-ladder.
 

ex-genj

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What is the popular argument against trading now? I would love to be able to swap gear with friends -- and I can't think of a single reason why I'd give a shit if someone else RMTed or botted their way to better gear. I'm just kinda curious why blizzard went this route. Everyone quickly realized how much the AH sucked -- it didn't belong in an item finder. That being said, I'm in direct competition with zero players. If someone else "abuses" trading by RMTing, it affects me zero. I just don't understand, I thought stashing gear and sharing with friends was an iconic aspect of D1/D2.

EDIT: Even IF its to protect the sanctity of the upcoming ladders, who gives a shit. Maybe they should do what PoE did and make the ladder its own "league" and disable trading during competition season.
Presumably if you can trade items you can get your BIS gear quicker and you'll quit the game because there's nothing else to do
 

Blackyce

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I don't understand how anybody likes, or watches kingkongor. That kid man. That kid. Ugh.
Most of the top streamers are all just douche bags. Can't stand him, Modz or the Streamerhouse. Only one I can watch for D3 is GIG, at least he tries to help you by showing runs and actually trying to help other players.

Also, who the fuck watches Towlie or Krip, OMG those guys are beyond boring.
 

Deathwing

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How "good" is life on hit now anyways? I gambled blackthorns pants and I could reroll its 1 socket
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or the LoH I guess.

What I really really need is a freaking graph that says: x mainstat = y +IAS = z critical hit damage etc but that seems to be hard to find. Annoying.
Depends generally on your class and more specifically on your ability. For monks and barbs, LoH is pretty damn good. Monks especially because their spirit generators don't suck and have high proc coefficients, which determines how much LoH you actually get when an ability damages a mob.

Some classes, though, have shitty proc coefficients generally. DH and Wizards, not sure about Crusaders and Witch Doctors. You might be better off with LPS instead of LoH on those classes. For example, FO only return ~6.66% of LoH per hit. You'll get multiple hits per cast, but you still need quite a few for to even add up to 100%. The monk ability WoTHF - FoF, on the other hand, has a coefficient of 1.25(best in game). And that's a spirit gen.

What is the popular argument against trading now? I would love to be able to swap gear with friends -- and I can't think of a single reason why I'd give a shit if someone else RMTed or botted their way to better gear. I'm just kinda curious why blizzard went this route. Everyone quickly realized how much the AH sucked -- it didn't belong in an item finder. That being said, I'm in direct competition with zero players. If someone else "abuses" trading by RMTing, it affects me zero. I just don't understand, I thought stashing gear and sharing with friends was an iconic aspect of D1/D2.

EDIT: Even IF its to protect the sanctity of the upcoming ladders, who gives a shit. Maybe they should do what PoE did and make the ladder its own "league" and disable trading during competition season.
Funny that you mention PoE. Unrestricted trade is essentially what destroyed that game from what I understand. Devs responded to botters and sellers by nerfing drop rates, eventually driving away most of the userbase. I guess they didn't like the sellers making more money than them.

But I don't think anyone is arguing for completely unrestricted free trade. I'm going to mention it again because I don't think anyone has seriously rebutted it yet. You get an item, you have 3 choices what to do with it:

Trade it(time restricted based on clan/friend/whatever)
Salvage it
Wear it

Traded item become bound. Equipped legendaries become bound. Equipped items can be salvaged but traded ones cannot(to deincentivize everyone thinking they MUST trade legendaries once, even the shit ones).